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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    The OPer in his messages divides up people by race and ethnicity. Anyone who votes in this poll should indicate if they are an American Jew. I'm not.

    The standard of being a Jew by Israel's definition is having at least 1 grandparent who was/is Jewish by both great grandparents, as I understand it. Just having some Jewish ancestry somewhere in the past does not quality.

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The freak that has been telling us for twenty five years that Iran is a year or two away from having nuclear weapons? Yeah.
    Your message has no credibility as you leave off actions by Israel to prevent Iran from doing so. Other than hatred of Israel and being pro-Iran, why do you leave that out of your message.

    The accurate statement is that for 25 years Israel has succeeded in preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, in response to vows by Iran and Muslim religious clerics calling for the total genocide of all Jews in tiny Israel - including by nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Basically the supporters of Netanyahu in America are Conservative Orthodox Jews and Dispensationalist Evangelical Christians. Most American Jews are not overly religious. Hell a lot of them are not religious at all. They don't have the cloud of fundamentalist religious belief impacting their judgement on Israel. When conservative evangelicals wonder why American Jews are typically fairly liberal and Democrat, its simple, they don't think like them. Their world view is vastly different.
    Correct. Most American Jews are Jews only because there is some Jewish ancestry in their history.

    What you leave off is they have no knowledge of the endless murder and genocide against Jews all over the world in their own personal memory. It is NOT about "religious" Jews. It is about Jews who have memory of the attrocities against Jews everywhere that lead their Jewish ancestor(s) to flee to the USA.

    The reason the worldwide population of Jews is so small is because for 3,000 years they have been murdered by the dozens, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions literally all over the world. This also is why Jews are the most scattered ethnicity in the world - the endless desperate attempts for Jews to find ANY safe place to live.

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Your message has no credibility as you leave off actions by Israel to prevent Iran from doing so. Other than hatred of Israel and being pro-Iran, why do you leave that out of your message.

    The accurate statement is that for 25 years Israel has succeeded in preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, in response to vows by Iran and Muslim religious clerics calling for the total genocide of all Jews in tiny Israel - including by nuclear weapons.
    Well, not in that particular post that you quoted, no. But I certainly have mentioned, on many occasions, the fact that Israel has violated international law by assassinating Iranian civilian scientists. And you keep misrepresenting the Iranian position of regime change in Israel, for annihilation of the entire country.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Correct. Most American Jews are Jews only because there is some Jewish ancestry in their history.

    What you leave off is they have no knowledge of the endless murder and genocide against Jews all over the world in their own personal memory. It is NOT about "religious" Jews. It is about Jews who have memory of the attrocities against Jews everywhere that lead their Jewish ancestor(s) to flee to the USA.

    The reason the worldwide population of Jews is so small is because for 3,000 years they have been murdered by the dozens, hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands and millions literally all over the world. This also is why Jews are the most scattered ethnicity in the world - the endless desperate attempts for Jews to find ANY safe place to live.
    Do you honestly think that American Jews, possibly the most highly educated demographic in the country, are ignorant of the historical persecution of Jews?

    Moreover, there are two reasons why the population of Jews worldwide is fairly small: 1. The holocaust. 2. Its not a religion that proselytizes to others like Christianity or Islam. If a religion does not actively go out and seek converts, its never going to have just a ton of adherents.
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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Virtually all Jews fled to the USA prior to the Immigration Act of 1924, which among other goals was to block Jews coming to the USA. As murder and increasing slaughter of Jews became worldwide, Jews were trying to flee to Israel, despite Britain trying to block the number of Jews coming to Israel.
    By 1938, Jews were desperate to get out of Europe and Britain proposed a small Jewish zone, smaller than present day Israel, and for all the rest being exclusively for Arabs. The Jewish Council agreed, but Palestinian Muslims riots, demanding that Jews do not have 1 inch of land and instead that Jews be evicted. Britain withdrew it's proposal.

    This left nowhere for European Jews to go, resulting in the murder of 1/3rd of all Jews in the World, 6 million, in the holocaust. However, the murder and oppression against Jews was worldwide, other than Britain attempted to maintain law and order in what is now Israel, so those few who could make it there were relatively safe.

    Few American Jews have any ancestry or direct linkage to the holocaust and have been safely within the USA so long they have no memory of the reason their ancestor's fled to the USA, just like many others of different ethnicity who came to the USA to escape do not.
    You do not, even a little bit, speak for any of us. Shut your ignorant mouth and stop spewing insults and lies about people you know nothing about.
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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The freak that has been telling us for twenty five years that Iran is a year or two away from having nuclear weapons? Yeah.
    Good that we organized sanctions. Otherwise he would have been right.

    PS: Would it surprise you, if they had dirty bomb capability?

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, not in that particular post that you quoted, no. But I certainly have mentioned, on many occasions, the fact that Israel has violated international law by assassinating Iranian civilian scientists. And you keep misrepresenting the Iranian position of regime change in Israel, for annihilation of the entire country.
    Iranian state-owned websites have explained why the destruction of Israel and the slaughter of its population would be justified. Jews are referred to as "cattle."

    Khamenei declared, “Iran’s position, which was first expressed by the Imam [Khomeini]…is that the cancerous tumor called Israel must be uprooted from the region.” A month later, he repeated his message. “The foundation of the Islamic regime is opposition to Israel and the perpetual subject of Iran is the elimination of Israel from the region.”

    “Our battalions are named Imam Ali, Imam Hussein and Bayt al-Maqdis [Jerusalem] to clarify our final destination to the Basiji. We will not abandon our [armed] struggle until the annihilation of Israel and until we will be able to pray in al-Aqsa mosque.

    About negotiating with Iran:

    “The enemies are talking about the options [they have] on the table. They should know that the first option on our table is the annihilation of Israel.

    “The issue of Palestine is an Islamic issue. The Islamic world must come together to destroy the false Israeli regime….If this happens, nothing will be left of Israel.”

    “If once the destruction and demise of occupying Israel was an impossible and unattainable dream, today thanks to the historic and intelligent actions of Imam Khomeini, it has become possible and is actually in the process of occurring.”

    The destruction of Israel is the idea of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and is one of the pillars of the Iranian Islamic regime. We cannot claim that we have no intention of going to war with Israel.

    As if that was not enough cause for concern, the International Atomic Energy Agency warned in a May 2011 report of Iranian efforts “involving the removal of the conventional high explosive payload from the warhead of the Shahab-3 missile and replacing it with a spherical nuclear payload.”

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    You do not, even a little bit, speak for any of us. Shut your ignorant mouth and stop spewing insults and lies about people you know nothing about.
    So claim to be a Jew declaring the holocaust and the 3000 year history of killing Jews is all a lie?

    Not for a second do I believe you are a Jew and the notion of a Jewish holocaust denier as you just declared yourself to be is absurd.

    Here's a clue. Pretending to be a Jew and then raging that those who talk of the holocaust and oppression of Jews are liars isn't going to work. Your's isn't even a nice try. I suppose next you're claim your black and post about racial discrimination.

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    Re: Do the majority of U.S. Jews support Netanyahu?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Good that we organized sanctions. Otherwise he would have been right.

    PS: Would it surprise you, if they had dirty bomb capability?
    And haven't used them.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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