View Poll Results: Are many Democrats now anti-Semitic?

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  • Yes, particularly lately with President Obama's statements and actions

    1 4.35%
  • Yes, but so are many other people - it is not unique to Democrats

    0 0%
  • Yes, but in effect and not deliberately so.

    0 0%
  • Some are, but most are not.

    5 21.74%
  • No, attitudes against Israel is not anti-Semitic

    16 69.57%
  • No country should be allowed to have an official religion/ethnicity like Israel does

    0 0%
  • The world would be a better place without a Jewish country

    0 0%
  • Virtually no Democrats are anti-Semitic

    5 21.74%
  • Palestinians need a voice in USA politics so Democrats should advocate for them

    1 4.35%
  • OTHER/IDK

    3 13.04%
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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What is hack about the poll? There seems a clear partisan divide on topics about Israel. You can, of course, post messages instead in some political non-reality if you wish, but the partisan realities are what they are. For the most part, Democrats are condemning Israel and Republicans are posting messages favorable to Israel. Do you claim that is inaccurate?
    So did you just confirm that this didn't need to be a poll?

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If we're going off anecdotal experiences alone, then I'd say that the rhetoric I've experienced (along with a handful of uncomfortable personal experiences ranging from mild irritation to outright alarm) that I describe as anti-Israel and even anti-Jewish is more than it should be. As for the Christian support, that just comes the belief that Jews living in Jerusalem once more fulfills messianic prophecies leading to armageddon, and which I therefore find creepy as all hell.
    No, you are likely wrong about Christian support of Israel. Rather, it is that Jews are "God's Chosen People." Most Christians don't even know what the word Armageddon means. While that is rooting in hardcore fundamentalism, it is the Muslim religion that more talks about the prophesy of end times. Do you find that creepy?

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    So did you just confirm that this didn't need to be a poll?
    No I didn't.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Apparently, you do not.
    So you retract what you posted?

    You posted that Israel is responsible for wars in the ME. I asked which ones. You refuse to answer.

    You said Israel is conspiring to drive up oil prices - though gave no reason why Israel would do that as that hurts Israel and helps Muslim oil producers.

    You also said Israel "insulted" your country by working with Republicans.
    Last edited by joko104; 03-30-15 at 05:00 PM.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Can you name ONE Muslim country that has said if Israel agrees to a "two state solution" they will recognize Israel as a legitimate country they are at peace with? Can you name even one that has said that - though seems asserted as a truism by the current administration.
    I can name several countries with a large Muslim majority or Islam is the official religion that have recognized Israel currently: Egypt, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Maldives, Tajikistan, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and even the state of Palestine.

    But to answer your question about after the two state solution: In 2002 the Arab League unanimously endorsed by all countries in the Arab League a peace proposal/plan. It calls for the upholding of UNSCR242 and UNSCR338 in return for fully normalized relations with the whole Arab world.... This plan has been endorsed every year by the Arab League.

    Israel has never changed it's position.
    Yes it has. Israeli views on the peace process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So why the partisan shift?
    Again, having political disagreements over policies is not anti-semitism.


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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Thing is nobody can really point to anything Obama has said or done that's antisemitic that isn't in realty little more than a criticism of the actions of the right wing Israeli government, as few criticisms as he actually has in his history.

    It would be equally absurd to say someone hates America or Americans if they don't like some of Obama's policies.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    PUBLIC POLL & MULTIPLE CHOICE

    Seemingly following Obama's anti-Israel actions and statements in the view of the elected leader of Israel, there are increasingly extreme anti-Semitic claims and advocacies, including increasingly on this forum. This includes:

    1. Claiming that up to 5 million Palestinian Muslims are allowed to immigrate/return to Israel - thus eliminating Israel as a Jewish nation, the only on in the world.

    2. Declaring all problems in the Middle East are caused by the existence of Israel, the way Hitler claimed Jews were responsible for Germany's problems.

    3. Endlessly claiming there are vast conspiracies by Jews of Israel including conspiratorial secret influences of the USA government, again parroting the claim Hitler made.

    4. Advocacies unique against Israel, such as "right of return" to Palestinians" - but no advocacy of the right to return to any other people anywhere else in the world such as the Tartars of Crimea.

    5. Discounting multiple past invasions by surrounding Muslim countries and vows to this day such as by Iran to totally destroy and kill all Jews in Israel.

    6. Never, under any circumstance, mentioning that Israel is the ancestral nation of Jews and that they were disposed of their country - to instead always only portray Jews as foreign invaders who stole their country from Muslims.

    7. Never mentioning the oppression, discrimination, bigotry and murder against Jews not only in the M.E. but around the world including in Europe - and that Israel is the ONLY country with an open-door policy towards Jews.

    8. Never mentioning the many centuries of atrocities against Jews around the world.

    9. Despite the current Prime Minister being elected by a majority, to insist as fact that he does not represent the views of Jews in Israel.


    I only see such views coming from Democrats and so-called liberals. Are many Democrats - whether deliberate or inadvertent - anti-Semitic?
    1. got sources for these comments? That would be nice

    2. being critical of some Israeli policies is not being anti-semetic (at least not automatically).

    3. Not supporting the policies of Bibi Netanyahu or applauding him like the actual president of the USA when he visits the senate (didn't hear democrats though shout out things like "liar" or comments to that effect) is not being anti-Israel last time I checked.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    PUBLIC POLL & MULTIPLE CHOICE

    Seemingly following Obama's anti-Israel actions and statements in the view of the elected leader of Israel, there are increasingly extreme anti-Semitic claims and advocacies, including increasingly on this forum. This includes:

    1. Claiming that up to 5 million Palestinian Muslims are allowed to immigrate/return to Israel - thus eliminating Israel as a Jewish nation, the only on in the world.

    4. Advocacies unique against Israel, such as "right of return" to Palestinians" - but no advocacy of the right to return to any other people anywhere else in the world such as the Tartars of Crimea.
    There is a law of return that turned a now Jewish area into a predominately Jewish country that is squeezing out the Palestinians.

    Law of Return - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Since 1950, 2,734,245 Jews have immigrated to Israel.[11] Hundreds of thousands of non-Jews have received Israeli citizenship, as the law confers citizenship to all offspring of a Jew (including grandchildren).[12]

    2. Declaring all problems in the Middle East are caused by the existence of Israel, the way Hitler claimed Jews were responsible for Germany's problems.

    3. Endlessly claiming there are vast conspiracies by Jews of Israel including conspiratorial secret influences of the USA government, again parroting the claim Hitler made.
    A democrat claimed cops are ISIS.Does that make all democrats wackos?

    6. Never, under any circumstance, mentioning that Israel is the ancestral nation of Jews and that they were disposed of their country -
    Israel is also the ancestral home of non-jews.

    to instead always only portray Jews as foreign invaders who stole their country from Muslims.
    If all Americans went to different parts of the world and started taking land that their ancestors lived on wouldn't they be invaders? Using your logic someone who has ancestors from Asia,Europe and Africa are entitled to take land from those places. The ancestral home argument is a load of horse crap.


    5. Discounting multiple past invasions by surrounding Muslim countries and vows to this day such as by Iran to totally destroy and kill all Jews in Israel.


    7. Never mentioning the oppression, discrimination, bigotry and murder against Jews not only in the M.E. but around the world including in Europe - and that Israel is the ONLY country with an open-door policy towards Jews.

    8. Never mentioning the many centuries of atrocities against Jews around the world.
    These things have nothing to do with how the Israelis are treating the Palestinians. Nor is mentioning these unrelated things antisemtic. Its like saying because someone stole five bucks from my Grandfather, mistreated my great great great great grandmother or threw a rock at a christian in some other part of the world that somehow entitles me to steal your tv and treat you like crap.

    9. Despite the current Prime Minister being elected by a majority, to insist as fact that he does not represent the views of Jews in Israel.
    that has nothing to with antisemitism.


    I only see such views coming from Democrats and so-called liberals. Are many Democrats - whether deliberate or inadvertent - anti-Semitic?
    Going against a country's views or actions does not make one anti-Semitic.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    No. I love bashing Libs as much as the next guy, but I don't think it's fair to label them anti semitic any more than it's fair to label a all southerners or all conservatives "racists."

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    if disliking Israel is racist, then disliking the university of Kentucky's basketball team is racist.

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