View Poll Results: Are many Democrats now anti-Semitic?

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  • Yes, particularly lately with President Obama's statements and actions

    1 4.35%
  • Yes, but so are many other people - it is not unique to Democrats

    0 0%
  • Yes, but in effect and not deliberately so.

    0 0%
  • Some are, but most are not.

    5 21.74%
  • No, attitudes against Israel is not anti-Semitic

    16 69.57%
  • No country should be allowed to have an official religion/ethnicity like Israel does

    0 0%
  • The world would be a better place without a Jewish country

    0 0%
  • Virtually no Democrats are anti-Semitic

    5 21.74%
  • Palestinians need a voice in USA politics so Democrats should advocate for them

    1 4.35%
  • OTHER/IDK

    3 13.04%
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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?


    Joko104, you have accused me being an anti-semite, then you go and tell me what I believe. I think you need to look up the definition of "anti-semitism", and you need to look what Obama proposes and many Democrats propose when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Are there anti-semites in the Democratic party? There are anti-semites probably in just about every American political party. Are the Democrats and Obama policy positions on Israel and Palestine "anti-semitic"? Absolutely not.


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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    The poll excludes the one most relevant option to Democrats and Left leaning individuals of all sorts.

    #10 Watching Israel's leader conspire against our President, the United States of America, and other Nations while cuddling with our Country's Right Wing to help promote massive war across the Middle East and to drive oil prices through the roof has in turn, caused resentment against Israel as a whole.

    As a strong Left Leaning Independent I was favorable towards Israel. I blamed both sides in the Israeli conflict equally but I identified more with Israel.
    After the unacceptable insult against my Country, I no longer am able to view Israel as favorable. Instead I now view Israel as a foreign enemy that is conspiring with our Right Wing to create war and boost profit.
    I now see myself as being against Israel just as I am against our Right Wing corporate shills.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't know what the numbers are, but the rhetoric I see coming from the left about Israel, and barely veiled criticism against Jews in general, is what I would describe as "unnerving." Being liberal myself and interacting with liberals IRL, this is more than just on public internet forums.
    While many on the forum try to put me into a partisan loyalty role both ways per issue, that isn't accurate. There seems to be a HUGE shift among liberals and Democrats in relation to Israel.

    I mention Obama because this goes back to his initial campaign. Remember the question of what if there was a nuclear attack against Israel - given Iran's leader's statement that due to the tiny size of Israel it would take literally just 1 or 2 nuclear weapons to 100% kill everyone in Israel.

    Do you remember the different response of Clinton and Obama? Clinton responded that the USA would turn Iran into "a wasteland." Obama's response? No response. No response was an answer. That was a MASSIVE shift of the Democratic stance towards Israel in my opinion. The loyalty to President Obama by many Democrats is too unquestioned in my opinion - and not just on this issue. But on "Homeland Security," drone strikes, government intrusion into people lives, secrecy, actions against the press and against whistleblowers - and much more - all stances Democrats would universally oppose if by a Republican President.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    I have never experienced anti-semitism at the hands of liberals, only at the hands of conservative Christians. Wanting to improve the lot of Palestinians is not anti-semetic. Accusations of Jewish conspiracies is, again, a conservative Christian thing, not a liberal thing. Likewise, liberals bring up centuries of violence against Jews all the time when conservative Christians try to excuse the violence of their religion while attacking the violence in others.

    I doubt you would find any more than a handful of Jews who would say that liberal Americans are their enemies.
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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    The poll excludes the one most relevant option to Democrats and Left leaning individuals of all sorts.

    #10 Watching Israel's leader conspire against our President, the United States of America, and other Nations while cuddling with our Country's Right Wing to help promote massive war across the Middle East and to drive oil prices through the roof has in turn, caused resentment against Israel as a whole.

    As a strong Left Leaning Independent I was favorable towards Israel. I blamed both sides in the Israeli conflict equally but I identified more with Israel.
    After the unacceptable insult against my Country, I no longer am able to view Israel as favorable. Instead I now view Israel as a foreign enemy that is conspiring with our Right Wing to create war and boost profit.
    I now see myself as being against Israel just as I am against our Right Wing corporate chills.
    Alright, at least you are truthful enough to acknowledge you are anti-Israel and you see Israel as an enemy.

    If I read you correctly, you see Israel's PM opposing a deal with Iran allowing Iran to continue to refine uranium to weapons grade - but at limited quality - as an "insult" to the USA - and you blame the wars in the ME on Israel.

    You also claim Israel is trying to drive up oil prices. I think you would have to agree that of the latter Israel has definitely failed given oil prices have crashed.

    Specifically what wars in the Middle East do you claim Israel is responsible for causing? The Iran-Iraq war? The civil war in Syria? ISIS? The USA in Gulf War 1 when Iran invaded Kuwait? Gulf War 2 to remove Saddam Hussein?

    Do you believe Israel should pursue their advocacy ONLY with Democrats?

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    The OP sounds like total BS to me.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The OP sounds like total BS to me.
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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I have never experienced anti-semitism at the hands of liberals, only at the hands of conservative Christians. Wanting to improve the lot of Palestinians is not anti-semetic. Accusations of Jewish conspiracies is, again, a conservative Christian thing, not a liberal thing. Likewise, liberals bring up centuries of violence against Jews all the time when conservative Christians try to excuse the violence of their religion while attacking the violence in others.

    I doubt you would find any more than a handful of Jews who would say that liberal Americans are their enemies.
    I think you mean American Jews in your last sentence.

    Until a few years ago I would agree with your message. It seems that has almost completely shifted. Israel hasn't changed it's stance on anything that I can see. Israel has ALWAYS opposed Muslim countries obtaining nuclear weapons and ALWAYS oppose Iran having ANY even civilian nuclear capabilities.

    It isn't Israeli policy that has changed. It has never changed. Therefore, the change is here. I'm wondering why that is.

    In my opinion, there is an outdated view that if Israel makes peace with Palestinians all problems in the ME will vanish. Yet I don't see the growth of ISIS, the revolution in Yemen, either Gulf War with Iraq nor the war in Afghanistan having ANYTHING to do with Israel and the Palestinian question. Do you?

    Even on the issue of Israel, the call is for elimination of Israel as a Jewish country, not about peace with Israel. Can you name ONE Muslim country that has said if Israel agrees to a "two state solution" they will recognize Israel as a legitimate country they are at peace with? Can you name even one that has said that - though seems asserted as a truism by the current administration.

    Israel has never changed it's position. So why the partisan shift?

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I have never experienced anti-semitism at the hands of liberals, only at the hands of conservative Christians. Wanting to improve the lot of Palestinians is not anti-semetic. Accusations of Jewish conspiracies is, again, a conservative Christian thing, not a liberal thing. Likewise, liberals bring up centuries of violence against Jews all the time when conservative Christians try to excuse the violence of their religion while attacking the violence in others.

    I doubt you would find any more than a handful of Jews who would say that liberal Americans are their enemies.
    If we're going off anecdotal experiences alone, then I'd say that the rhetoric I've experienced (along with a handful of uncomfortable personal experiences ranging from mild irritation to outright alarm) that I describe as anti-Israel and even anti-Jewish is more than it should be. As for the Christian support, that just comes the belief that Jews living in Jerusalem once more fulfills messianic prophecies leading to armageddon, and which I therefore find creepy as all hell.

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    Re: Are many Democrats in the USA now anti-Semitic?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    If I read you correctly
    Apparently, you do not.

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