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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Pastors have been telling their flocks to stand with Israel for over 50 years in the US. Its what good Christians are supposed to do.
    Yeah they do that but they forget about all this

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    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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    French President Nicolas Sarkozy branded Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "a liar" in a private conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama that was accidentally broadcast to journalists during last week's G20 summit in Cannes.

    "I cannot bear Netanyahu, he's a liar," Sarkozy told Obama, unaware that the microphones in their meeting room had been switched on, enabling reporters in a separate location to listen in to a simultaneous translation.
    Sarkozy tells Obama Netanyahu is a liar | Reuters

    That is so sad, so very, very sad.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'd say it's more of a litmus test for anyone. However in the GOP, ANY critcism of Israel would appear to not be kosher. We see it here. All you have to do is question if more settlements is a good idea and the charges of anti-semitism start flying.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The part working best seems to be the one to delegitimize the state of Israel. In his find a colony of European Jews.


    It's probably about time to start asking if Obama is an anti-semite.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What James Baker said is the truth. The Israel was blocking the creation of a Palestinian state then, they are blocking it now.


    There is a Palestinian State. It is called the Gaza Strip.

    In the last few years they have launched 1000's of rockets to indiscriminately kill Jews in Israel.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    This is an issue for the Israel/Palestine section, but let me briefly say that how the hell do you expect a group of people who have been forced from their homes by the hundreds of thousands, whose innocent children are regularly killed in Israel's "mowing the lawn", to respond. People like Netanyahu appear to be hell bent on eliminating the Palestinians.


    There are only two ways anything can be: The way it is and the way you wish it might be.

    The chosen method to effect change in this part of the world is to kill anything that moves. That is the method the Palestinians have chosen to pursue.

    You really need to watch a video of the Hasidic Rabbi's picking the small parts of Jews off the walls and light posts after the suicide bomber completes his grisly mission.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    There is a Palestinian State. It is called the Gaza Strip.

    In the last few years they have launched 1000's of rockets to indiscriminately kill Jews in Israel.
    If there's already a Palestinian state, what exactly did Netanyahu promise? I'm pretty sure Israel doesn't have a time machine.


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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I don't understand why any Jew is still voting Democrat.
    Why do people assume that Jews around the world take their marching orders from the Israeli government? Israel is not to the Jews what the Vatican is to the Catholics.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The part that says that there needs to be a two state solution, the part that Netanyahu, the person who William Kristol proudly boasts would be the Republican nominee if the rules were different, rejects.


    Israel offered everything that Clinton asked them to offer and the Palestinians walked away from the table and the deal. They don't want a two state solution. Why do you refuse to understand what they are so clearly saying?

    Seriously, though, is there any part of Obama's foreign policy that is a success? I really can't think of anything that is not a steaming, hot mess. The guy has the reverse Midas touch.

    Should we assume that he is actually so stupid that he continuously blinders in to all of the wrong choices or should we assume that he is acting on behalf of those states that are traditionally our enemies?

    Russia, Iran, ISIS, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Harrram, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban... All of the bad guys are prospering under the benign tutelage of the Big 0.

    In the mean time, Israel is worried, the EU is terrified that the Iranians will get the Nuke very soon, 1000's die at the hands of the barbarians and the USA stands by idly while the borders of allies are overrun by the enemies.

    The Saudis confide that it's better to be an enemy of the US than an ally.

    Obama is a legitimate terror to the free world.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    If there's already a Palestinian state, what exactly did Netanyahu promise? I'm pretty sure Israel doesn't have a time machine.


    Gaza has it's own elected government and is autonomous.

    I think their chief export is hate.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Why do people assume that Jews around the world take their marching orders from the Israeli government? Israel is not to the Jews what the Vatican is to the Catholics.


    I'm not implying that that "marching orders" are issued from Tel Aviv. Just that there is probably a bit of interest in what is happening there.

    As I think of it right now, I have no friends that are Jews. I used to have quite a few when in school. They were all very interested in the condition of the Israeli state and the wars that seemed to come along every few years.

    Perhaps that has changed.

    If it has not, the obvious hate that Obama projects toward Israel should not be invisible to them.
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