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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The point is that you said criminals should not be let out of prison. But Ariel Sharon was a war criminal and was Prime Minister of Israel. Why did they elect a war criminal to the post of Prime Minister?
    I did not say that we don't let them out ever... and ask the Israeli's. You are really grasping... it wreaks of desparation.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I did not say that we don't let them out ever... and ask the Israeli's. You are really grasping... it wreaks of desparation.
    There is nothing desperate about it. You want to justify not letting Palestinians return to their homes on the principle of not letting prisoners out of prison, but at the same time Israel elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister. It appears that the point is above your head.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There is nothing desperate about it. You want to justify not letting Palestinians return to their homes on the principle of not letting prisoners out of prison, but at the same time Israel elected a war criminal to be Prime Minister. It appears that the point is above your head.
    I never said that I don't want Palestinians to return to their homes... try again because you are sinking fast.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I never said that I don't want Palestinians to return to their homes
    I never said that you said you didn't want the Palestinians to return to their homes. Here's what you did say

    MildSteel said

    Oh so Israel won't let those people go back because they were attacked first?
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    Same principle as we don't let criminals out of prison when they attacked us first
    Here it is right here

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064486057

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I never said that you said you didn't want the Palestinians to return to their homes. Here's what you did say

    MildSteel said



    You responded



    Here it is right here

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064486057
    Anything else?
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's something of interest



    William Kristol has made the following boast



    Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us...yahu.html?_r=0
    There is no ideological connection between republicanism and the survival/well-being of Israel, Israelis, or specific political parties in Israel like the Likud.

    The GOP interest in Netanyahu is purely financial--GOP pols get paid big $$ by AIPAC, so they do what AIPAC tells them (i. e. cheerlead for the Israeli right-wing).

    If these same GOP pols were paid substantially more $$ by CAIR (Council of American-Islamic Relations) or J Street, their allegiances would shift to being against Netanyahu and his goals.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There is no ideological connection between republicanism and the survival/well-being of Israel, Israelis, or specific political parties in Israel like the Likud.

    The GOP interest in Netanyahu is purely financial--GOP pols get paid big $$ by AIPAC, so they do what AIPAC tells them (i. e. cheerlead for the Israeli right-wing).

    If these same GOP pols were paid substantially more $$ by CAIR (Council of American-Islamic Relations) or J Street, their allegiances would shift to being against Netanyahu and his goals.
    And Arabs have given massively to Democrats, most covered in the media lately the Clintons.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Would you care to link to the Ukrainians who think that the treaty does not apply in this case.

    Of course the aggressor that has breached the agreement would say they are justified. Of course the weak and gutless Obama would say that the treaty does not apply. If it meant he had to do something brave, he would run away faster than Hussein Bolt.

    The Ukraine had defined borders and they entered into an agreement to maintain those borders with the USA. The USA reneged on that agreement to, once again, abandon one of its allies and another of its commitments.

    It is common in the world today that our enemies do not fear us and our allies do not trust us.

    As a country under the feckless leadership of the weak kneed Obama and erratic policies, we have earned both positions.
    You have no understanding of what went down in Kiev the fall of 2013!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There is no ideological connection between republicanism and the survival/well-being of Israel, Israelis, or specific political parties in Israel like the Likud.

    The GOP interest in Netanyahu is purely financial--GOP pols get paid big $$ by AIPAC, so they do what AIPAC tells them (i. e. cheerlead for the Israeli right-wing).

    If these same GOP pols were paid substantially more $$ by CAIR (Council of American-Islamic Relations) or J Street, their allegiances would shift to being against Netanyahu and his goals.
    I would not say it is purely financial, but it definitely has a financial component to it.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And Arabs have given massively to Democrats, most covered in the media lately the Clintons.
    The Arab regimes in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Jordan are totally anti-Iran and most likely support Netanyahu and his goals.

    What would make a difference is donations from groups w/pro-Iranian sentiment and/or anti-Likud sentiment (i. e. J Street) to GOP pols' coffers.

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