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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post


    Man you people and that anti-Semitic crap. Please, give me a break.
    Ha. Here's the record you might want to update your thinking about.

    A Complete Timeline of Obama's Anti-Israel Hatred - Breitbart
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Ha. Here's the record you might want to update your thinking about.

    A Complete Timeline of Obama's Anti-Israel Hatred - Breitbart
    **** Breitbart, of course he would frame holding Israel accountable as anti-Israel. So back when he became president, he told Israel they needed to stop building their illegal settlements. And Obama blew the whistle on a conspiracy between the Saudis and Israel to pre-emptively attack Iran. And Obama criticized Israel for assassinating Iranian civilian scientists, a violation of international law. And?
    Last edited by Montecresto; 03-30-15 at 08:26 PM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I know the difference but you do NOT.....
    First of all, I wasn't talking to you. Second, you don't have a clue what I know. Finally, I'm not that interested in what you have to say.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    **** Breitbart, of course he would frame holding Israel accountable as anti-Israel. So back when he became president, he told Israel they needed to stop building their illegal settlements.
    It was Israel's land to build on. It was either given to them by God and/or the United Nations, or won in a war when Israel was attacked. They want to screw with Israel then they get what they get.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    It was Israel's land to build on. It was either given to them by God and/or the United Nations, or won in a war when Israel was attacked. They want to screw with Israel then they get what they get.
    Actually, that's all changing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually, that's all changing.
    I must have missed it in the news.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    First of all, I wasn't talking to you.
    Second, you don't have a clue what I know.
    Finally, I'm not that interested in what you have to say.
    1. You're Lying, you Respond all the time, including in this section and in the last few days, a back-and-forth in the M-E.

    2. This is a MESSAGE BOARD, NOT PM.
    Everyone is entitled to respond to everyone else... and does.

    3. You just Got your Head kicked in again, as you did earlier TODAY:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...post1064476162 (Yemen worshipers were cursing Jews when mosque blown up)

    In that String I responded to Manc Skipper, and YOU, Just Last N!ght/TODAY, Responded to ME, Unsolicited.
    YOU sought out/responded to MY post to someone Else! ! !
    What a WHOPPER Moot!
    "Not Interested"!
    OUCHER!

    4. Thus your above Obnoxious, Dropped Topic, Sore-Loser, reply.

    5. Please cut out the juvenile Personal posts and stay ON TOPIC.
    Try and win debates, Not have to retreat to Insults because you can't.
    Last edited by mbig; 03-30-15 at 08:55 PM.

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Well, perhaps if you act like you want to be treated then maybe you will. But as it stands, you're quite condescending yourself.
    I return what I receive. Go back and read your first response to me.
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    Re: Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Although we may have some common values, what is more important is common interests. And it is becoming quite apparent that the interests of Israel are quickly diverging from those of the United States. No doubt about it. Therefore, Israel is becoming a net liability relative to U.S. interests rather than an asset. Republicans need to realize this. To see how this is indeed the case, note the following words of the wise statesman, James Baker.

    Although Netanyahu and his right-and-center coalition may oppose a two-state solution, a land-for-peace approach has long been supported by a substantial portion of the Israeli body politic, by every American [administration] since 1967 — Republican and Democratic alike — and a vast majority of nations around the world,” If Israel sees its future with Netanyahu, it is becoming quite apparent that the interests of the United States are rapidly diverging from those of Israel.
    "Land for Peace" should be called the "Poland Deal" - as it is the exact "deal" Hitler made with the West concerning Poland (which also has the highest Jewish population in the world). Poland would give up it's critical defensive border and - in return - there would be peace.

    In fact, what happened was the greatest mass murder of Jews in world history and their elimination from Poland to this day, the utter destruction of Poland that was put into a indefensible situation despite a previously powerful defensive posture - and World War 2 with Germany.

    The "land for peace" deal is the identical deal. Israel will put itself into a militarily indefensible position in relation to those who openly call for the genocide of Jews in Israel - with the threat that if Israel won't agree the Western powers will cease to support Israel.

    Israel would be wiser to go it alone than agree to that deal. At least for now there are enough Jews in Israel whose entire families were murdered and everything they had taken to understand what the Hitler-Poland land-for-peace deal really means. It means the eventually utter obliteration of Israel and the genocide of all Jews there.

    The West is again certainly willing to write off Jews and other countries. And it was liberals who supported Hitler's land-for-peace deal regarding Poland, claiming it would bring peace - when in fact it brought genocide and world war.

    If the Jews of Israel give up their viable military posture for an unviable one in reliance upon the West and the USA, virtually every Jew in Israel will be murdered as the end of that story, with the rest subjugated. And again there could be another world war - this time with nuclear weapons. Appeasement at the expense of defense NEVER works in the long run. Instead, it is the assurance of future war.

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