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    Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    I was looking at the astounding number of federal laws passed every single year, and it occurred to me: part of the problem is that elected officials feel the need to "do something". With millions of laws on the books, all they can do is make more and more laws, which further and further stifle us as a country.



    I propose that all laws not specifically enumerated in The Constitution expire after 10 years.

    This would give us

    A) something for the politicians to "do" without thinking of new crap to tie us up with
    B) it would mean "bad" law doesn't last for decades (NFA Act '37 for example)
    C) It would mean law more closely matches the current political makeup. No ramming something through in the dead of the night which is still there years later, even though it was passed through deceit and legislative maneuvering ala ObamaCare, Social Security etc....

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    I was looking at the astounding number of federal laws passed every single year, and it occurred to me: part of the problem is that elected officials feel the need to "do something". With millions of laws on the books, all they can do is make more and more laws, which further and further stifle us as a country.



    I propose that all laws not specifically enumerated in The Constitution expire after 10 years.

    This would give us

    A) something for the politicians to "do" without thinking of new crap to tie us up with
    B) it would mean "bad" law doesn't last for decades (NFA Act '37 for example)
    C) It would mean law more closely matches the current political makeup. No ramming something through in the dead of the night which is still there years later, even though it was passed through deceit and legislative maneuvering ala ObamaCare, Social Security etc....
    Well, I wanted to check option 1 because there was something I liked in it, namely looking at laws every 10 years. I don't know that we should automatically sunset anything without looking at it. And the world changes so much, constantly, that I think it's wise to have to review them and improve them. 10 years seems like a reasonable number IMO.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    I was looking at the astounding number of federal laws passed every single year, and it occurred to me: part of the problem is that elected officials feel the need to "do something". With millions of laws on the books, all they can do is make more and more laws, which further and further stifle us as a country.



    I propose that all laws not specifically enumerated in The Constitution expire after 10 years.

    This would give us

    A) something for the politicians to "do" without thinking of new crap to tie us up with
    B) it would mean "bad" law doesn't last for decades (NFA Act '37 for example)
    C) It would mean law more closely matches the current political makeup. No ramming something through in the dead of the night which is still there years later, even though it was passed through deceit and legislative maneuvering ala ObamaCare, Social Security etc....
    I propose that all federal laws not specific to an enumerated federal power disappear immediately - not after 10 years. The problem is that far too many federal laws are based on derived powers, e.g. PPACA is based on the 16A power to tax "income from all sources" which never states that taxation may be based on how income was later NOT spent. In other words, any federal individual/business mandate may become "constitutionally valid" if it is enforced by the IRS using a tax penalty.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    More right wing anti-government nonsense that we should recognize for exactly what it is.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    If there is nothing wrong with the law it should continue.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    I was looking at the astounding number of federal laws passed every single year, and it occurred to me: part of the problem is that elected officials feel the need to "do something". With millions of laws on the books, all they can do is make more and more laws, which further and further stifle us as a country.



    I propose that all laws not specifically enumerated in The Constitution expire after 10 years.

    This would give us

    A) something for the politicians to "do" without thinking of new crap to tie us up with
    B) it would mean "bad" law doesn't last for decades (NFA Act '37 for example)
    C) It would mean law more closely matches the current political makeup. No ramming something through in the dead of the night which is still there years later, even though it was passed through deceit and legislative maneuvering ala ObamaCare, Social Security etc....


    Well, I've heard this proposal before (10-20 yr span), and it is interesting. It would help keep them busy, yes. It would make it hard for bad laws and such to persist for decades. It would make it harder for highly partisan legislation to remain in place for decades, as the composition of the Congress changed.

    However, there's a side effect: GOOD laws that one side doesn't like would end up sunsetting also. All it would take would be a strong partisan hold on Congress at the time the sunset provision came up.


    Instead of having ALL laws sunset after 10 years, I think SOME laws should sunset after 10 years unless re-passed. Under that heading of "some", I think I'd propose the following list:

    1. All laws which can be construed to limit an Enumerated right of the Bill of Rights.
    2. All laws which are not covered under Article 1 Section 8.
    3. All Federal bureaus and agencies not defined in the Constitution must be re-affirmed every 10 years and re-justify their budget from a zero-dollar baseline.
    4. Any laws which have been reviewed by SCOTUS and found to enhance or enable an enumerated right of the BOR are exempted from the sunset provision.

    Just some thoughts...

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    I got another idea: how about for every new law created an existing law must be repealed.

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Every ten years a law must be reviewed.

    Auto-destroy seems stupid to me.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Some should and some shouldn't. It is simpleton thinkings to look at topics as absolutes. Accordingly this is a poll is deficient in choices.

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    I was looking at the astounding number of federal laws passed every single year, and it occurred to me: part of the problem is that elected officials feel the need to "do something". With millions of laws on the books, all they can do is make more and more laws, which further and further stifle us

    I propose that all laws not specifically enumerated in The Constitution expire after 10 years.

    This would give us

    A) something for the politicians to "do" without thinking of new crap to tie us up with
    B) it would mean "bad" law doesn't last for decades (NFA Act '37 for example)
    C) It would mean law more closely matches the current political makeup. No ramming something through in the dead of the night which is still there years later, even though it was passed through deceit and legislative maneuvering ala ObamaCare, Social Security etc....
    "Stifle" ??
    Only your opinion, sir .
    NOT fact.
    All of our laws should be reviewed , carefully .. To NOT do this is sloth , laziness .. even anti-American .

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