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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Reviewing laws every ten years sounds like acknowledging the incompetence of legislators. How about making it take ten years to pass a law? That way it couldn't be a law serving someone's political agenda.
    Hadn't thought about it that way.

    I have long thought, however, that we need to have a six month moratorium after a high profile tragedy before we enact a new law based on said tragedy. We end up with way too many bad laws by letting emotion and expediency rule the day.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Hadn't thought about it that way.

    I have long thought, however, that we need to have a six month moratorium after a high profile tragedy before we enact a new law based on said tragedy. We end up with way too many bad laws by letting emotion and expediency rule the day.
    I agree.
    We also need to impress on our legislators that laws don't prevent anything, never have. And we need to somehow erase from the public perception the idea that making a law equals being tough on crime. Or terrorism.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    I have to admit, it's an interesting idea. But I think it may very well be that congress critters'll figure a way around it.

    Now we have huge omnibus budget / spending bills that have every manner of tacked on crap, as is usual when designed by committee.

    A package of laws comes up for review / renewal, and wouldn't it be likely that the same approach would be applied? Just a big package of laws all renewed by default. But a check mark in that box and move on?

    On the other hand, it opens the door for ever more tweaking of existing laws. Can you imagine the nation constantly running after all the changes to the laws?

    I guess it really depends on what level of 'review' the laws get. The best possible review would be a full cost / benefit analysis, as well as an impact analysis, i.e. is the law doing what it was supposed to do?

    But something tells me that if a law is really damaging someone, or something, or had some really unforeseen negative effects, that it'd be tweaked (band aided) way before 10 years past.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    There are so many criminal laws and regulations at the Federal level alone that no person or agency can tell exactly how many there are and can only estimate. Couple that with the fact that we entered a legislative era of passing laws without reading them and it becomes a major problem in a country where ignorance of the law is not a defense. At minimum, laws should be reviewed if only to find out what they are and I suspect the vast majority of our legal code could sunset without anyone even noticing it was gone. Personally, I think its ridiculous to have more laws than any one person can have at least an elementary understanding of.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    That is all they will do is "review" nothing more.
    They can then advise and recommend to the legislature.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Yes, one of the laws that definitely needs to be replaced is the gun law

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Socrates View Post
    Yes, one of the laws that definitely needs to be replaced is the gun law
    LOL...Which one? There are around 30,000 of them.

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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I have to admit, it's an interesting idea. But I think it may very well be that congress critters'll figure a way around it.

    Now we have huge omnibus budget / spending bills that have every manner of tacked on crap, as is usual when designed by committee.

    A package of laws comes up for review / renewal, and wouldn't it be likely that the same approach would be applied? Just a big package of laws all renewed by default. But a check mark in that box and move on?

    On the other hand, it opens the door for ever more tweaking of existing laws. Can you imagine the nation constantly running after all the changes to the laws?

    I guess it really depends on what level of 'review' the laws get. The best possible review would be a full cost / benefit analysis, as well as an impact analysis, i.e. is the law doing what it was supposed to do?

    But something tells me that if a law is really damaging someone, or something, or had some really unforeseen negative effects, that it'd be tweaked (band aided) way before 10 years past.
    There ya go. There's the workaround. Nobody (in this thread) said they had to be renewed one-by-one.
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    There ya go. There's the workaround. Nobody (in this thread) said they had to be renewed one-by-one.
    If the individual laws are being reviewed for their efficacy, then really, what's the point?
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    Re: Should ALL laws sunset after 10 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps they did not see it as you do?
    I don't think anyone can argue that FDR was trying to follow the constitution. He wanted to use the crisis of the Depression to grab all sorts of powers for the federal government that cannot be found by even the most expansive honest interpretation of the commerce clause etc



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