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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    Should have added some details,sorry I mean should they be flying without human pilots.
    No. The reasons are a few, but to best illustrate the problems, imagine I am flying from here in Atlanta to LAX, going from the busiest airport in terms of passengers, to the 5th busiest. In Atlanta, there are 2380 takeoffs/landings per day on average, while at LAX, there is a more sedate 1744. Now, do you really think it is a good idea to fly fully automated planes into or out of that kind of traffic(hint: it is not). Ads in the potential for equipment failure(I worked on aircraft when I was in the navy...trust me when I say this is a very real issue), god forbid sabotage, and you have a recipe for disaster.
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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
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    The technology for self flying planes will probably be available eventually. Air Bus has been trying to develop that, and they've had one spectacular crash that I know of:



    Designing the pilot out of the plane is a big goal of Air Bus. They've done a lot of that already, and it has sometimes resulted in mishaps. It all works well unless there is bad weather or unforeseen problems, like bird strikes, arise.

    We aren't sure of self driving cars yet, and planes are way way more complicated.

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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    Should have added some details,sorry I mean should they be flying without human pilots aboard.
    No! why make it easier for a nut job to commandeer the cockpit - among many other bad reasons.
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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    I am all for autopilot planes.

    Though I think at least one of the flight attendants on each flight should have a rudimentary understanding of flying the aircraft they are assigned to just in case.
    She (or he) should sit in the cockpit on takeoff and landings and bad weather just in case of a malfunction in the autopilot. Also, the FA would have to type in course corrections to avoid bad weather or in case of holding patterns.
    But otherwise I think the cockpit should be locked and empty and leave the flying up to the inflatable autopilot.


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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
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    Well, since you failed to explain yourself very well, I'm going to assume this is related to the Germanwings plane crash. You're proposing that the plane should have prevented the pilot from flying it into a mountainside.

    And I think that's a bad idea. Planes do fly themselves for the most part these days. Autopilots can even land planes. But hardware and software can fail, and it's important to have a trained human being there to take over in case that happens.

    An autopilot system that could prevent a pilot from flying into the side of a mountain could also prevent a pilot from taking over in case of an autopilot error.
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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    We aren't sure of self driving cars yet, and planes are way way more complicated.
    Actually, in a lot of ways, planes are much simpler to control automatically than cars are. The control scheme of a plane is more complicated, since you have six axes of movement rather than 3, but an airplane has to deal with far fewer obstacles than a car does.
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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Interesting idea. I understand why you asked, but I think complete auto pilot would be just as dangerous in the event of technology failure, which happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Well, since you failed to explain yourself very well, I'm going to assume this is related to the Germanwings plane crash. You're proposing that the plane should have prevented the pilot from flying it into a mountainside.

    And I think that's a bad idea. Planes do fly themselves for the most part these days. Autopilots can even land planes. But hardware and software can fail, and it's important to have a trained human being there to take over in case that happens.

    An autopilot system that could prevent a pilot from flying into the side of a mountain could also prevent a pilot from taking over in case of an autopilot error.


    Human error has been the cause of almost every single airplane crash in recent history. Technology is a million times more reliable than humans, we are just loathe to admit it.

    (Also I would definitely pay (once) for the newly vacant panoramic glass nose seat.)
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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Wait, so you think he is saying that no pilot would be involved at all? Seriously, why did he not bother to explain that? At least then it would be easy to give an answer to...it is a terrible idea for a number of reasons. What about for takeoffs, approaches and landings? Is he including that in the no pilot involvement do you think?
    We have not yet used this technology thoroughly with automobiles operating on land.

    Ain't gonna happen for airplanes for quite some time.

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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No. The reasons are a few, but to best illustrate the problems, imagine I am flying from here in Atlanta to LAX, going from the busiest airport in terms of passengers, to the 5th busiest. In Atlanta, there are 2380 takeoffs/landings per day on average, while at LAX, there is a more sedate 1744. Now, do you really think it is a good idea to fly fully automated planes into or out of that kind of traffic(hint: it is not). Ads in the potential for equipment failure(I worked on aircraft when I was in the navy...trust me when I say this is a very real issue), god forbid sabotage, and you have a recipe for disaster.
    But how we make sure a someone's 100% mentally healthy.

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    Re: Should planes be flying themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    We have not yet used this technology thoroughly with automobiles operating on land.

    Ain't gonna happen for airplanes for quite some time.

    Ridiculous OP question.
    Airplane autopilot has been a thing for quite some time, although it's really more like cruise control. Most pilots, once reaching cruising altitude, will set commercial planes to auto. So I don't really think it's ridiculous at all.

    Really, it's a question of the circumstances upon which the pilot should be allowed to take control back from autopilot. Right now, it's on will, and is always done for take off and landing. Should pilot control of the plane perhaps be limited to take off and landing? Or upon usage of some kind of mayday signal (that ground control would be alerted of).
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