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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Oh please. Allowing consumers to refinance their student loan debt would definitely help the middle class.

    So why the hell didn't the Republicans put forward such a "clean" bill. Why? Because they really don't give a damn about middle class people who are faithfully repaying their student loan debt.

    The problem is that allowing consumers who are faithfully repaying their student loan debt the chance to refinance should not be about interest rates on student loan debt and federal treasury receipts. It should be about giving people who are repaying their loans in good faith some relief. Such a measure would help the middle class.
    The Republicans weren't in power when that bill came up for a vote. The Democrats held the power in the Senate and Republicans weren't allowed to submit bills. And Harry Reid wouldn't allow any bill coming from the House to be put to a vote. So the bill that originated in the Senate failed because it only got 38 votes even though the Democrats held the majority and the House never got to vote on it.

    Sucks when you can't blame the Republicans doesn't it.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What in the hell does having a loan refinanced have to do with the rich paying for the loan? That idea is village idiot worthy.

    There is no government program that allows people to refinance their student loans at lower rates. Its just not there. Don't even try it.



    Yep! That's just what I thought. Like I said, Republicans are against the middle class. You don't hear them saying suck it up kiddies to the rich when its time for a tax increase.
    Your statements make no sense. The Warren "refinance" bill would have been paid for by increasing taxes on the rich. How is that not having the rich pay for it? But you're right. That idea is village idiot worthy.

    AFAIK, there is no bill proposed or even in effect that denies you the right to refinance your loan. You go to your own bank, the bank currently holding your student loan, or even daddy or granny, and borrow the money to pay off the higher interest loan. That's called refinancing. What you and Warren are talking about is subsidized restructuring. Not the same thing. Not a government program? Correct. Government should not exist to bail you out of bad decisions.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans appear to be determined to block any sort of efforts designed to help the middle class. For example they opposed this effort to allow students to refinance their student loans



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    They also have voiced opposition to Obama's plan to provide free community college and opposed extending unemployment insurance to unemployed Americans.

    Are Republicans against helping the middle class?
    Are you suggesting students are the middle class, if so then I ask are Democrats against the middle class. Try this out, the Republicans are for school vouchers and the democrats are against them pandering to the teachers unions instead of the student middle class holding them back from a good education from a school of their choice.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The rate in which costs of higher education have skyrocketed is disgusting.
    And why do you think that is happening?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    lets go on the idea you are correct about the GOP, do you really think the DNC is any better?... that they have the interest of the people, the states, and the union at heart, ...no.... they want redistribute of wealth equally among the people, and setting themselves up as the ones to do the redistribution, and tell everyone how much they care about us all, as they continue to accumulated more power over everyone and everything.

    BOTH parties are bad......so criticizing just 1 of them is not being honest.
    I dod not see that at all. But I would be happy to examine your evidence of the claim.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I dod not see that at all. But I would be happy to examine your evidence of the claim.
    you don't see it because you are a democratic party member, who will support what ever the party wants to do, the only time you are angry with your party is when you believe the party has given in to republicans.

    BOTH parties are bad, and dont give a hoot, about the people, the states or the union.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you don't see it because you are a democratic party member, who will support what ever the party wants to do, the only time you are angry with your party is when you believe the party has given in to republicans.

    BOTH parties are bad, and dont give a hoot, about the people, the states or the union.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    terrific.
    iam glad you recognize your own failings on parties, and that you see both parties as bad.......you show a little promise for the future.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    iam glad you recognize your own failings on parties, and that you see both parties as bad.......you show a little promise for the future.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    terrific
    glad you see your failings.....i am happy with your progress
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