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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I have not seen the GOP trying to help the middle class since the tax cuts in the 80's/90's, it seems all they want to do is "balance the budget" by gutting social programs, lower taxes on the wealthy, "preserve marriage", deny human climate change, support big oil, vote down bills proposed to help others due to hatred of the president... the list goes on. (41 Republican Senators Voted Against a Landmark Veterans Bill in February, Today They Blame the VA*|*H. A. Goodman) <<<<<= as one example, I mean, what the hell do the GOP want to do for the middle class?They're certainly not helping, nor trying to, from all I've seen. Just look at their new budget plan!
    The only thing wrong with your response is that they were not trying to help the middle class with those tax cuts. They were trying to help the wealthy. Everything else was right on the mark.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The Republocrats in general serve more towards big donors and big corporations than small business and the individual.
    Ain't that the truth.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    FFS, they came down against net neutrality once it was framed as business vs. Federal government, even though net neutrality is objectively good for everyone. They even thoroughly supported cable monopolies in lobbying state legislatures to ban local municipalities from creating their own internet connections. If that doesn't tell you something, nothing will.
    Now you are cooking with gas.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many democrats and republicans are against helping the middle class. They support things like outsourcing that literally ships jobs overseas.
    Well you are definitely right about that one. It is disgusting.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You're absolutely right about this, and it's utterly disgraceful that Democrats in congress talked about supporting industry and labor at home yet voted in favor of "free trade agreements" (like NAFTA) that resulted in industries fleeing the U.S. in droves while keeping their corporate headquarters and bank accounts here. That being said, if we were to have a discussion on this forum in favor of repealing those agreements (or at least the parts that allow American industries to move their labor to other countries), how do you think those battle lines would draw up?
    Agreed. Why? Because they will do everything to help the wealthy regardless of its effects on the middle class.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You do know it was Clinton who signed the China trade deal into law? It would be chamber of commerce republicans and chamber of commerce democrats on one side and severely outnumbered republicans and democrats who oppose "free" trade on the other side. Just because democrats throw a few crumbs here and there to the poor doesn't mean they are on the side of the poor and middle class any more or any less than the republicans are.
    Well at least they throw some crumbs. The Republicans don't throw jack****.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    That bill had nothing to do with helping the middle class.
    Oh please. Allowing consumers to refinance their student loan debt would definitely help the middle class.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    If the Democrats had presented a clean bill allowing student and opportunity to refinance their student loans using normal financing rules, there would have been no objection as that would have given a break to the middle class.
    So why the hell didn't the Republicans put forward such a "clean" bill. Why? Because they really don't give a damn about middle class people who are faithfully repaying their student loan debt.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But the other part of that bill is that the lowered interest rate would have diminished federal treasury receipts and the Democrats intended to offset that with an alternate minimum tax of 30% on high earning Americans.
    The problem is that allowing consumers who are faithfully repaying their student loan debt the chance to refinance should not be about interest rates on student loan debt and federal treasury receipts. It should be about giving people who are repaying their loans in good faith some relief. Such a measure would help the middle class.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You can say that all you want.But it does not change the fact it contradicts your statement of saying you do not wish for manufacturers to leave the US.Plus the fact you admitted to have no use for nationalism or views that serve to hold back the development of third world countries means you do not give two ****s about manufacturing in America.
    Excellent!!! Well said!!!!

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Like I said it would be chamber of Commerce democrats and republicans on one side and on the other side would democrats and republicans who are severely outnumbered by the chamber of commerce democrats and republicans.
    It's a nice thought, but it's not how sides are drawn up on this forum. In discussions in which the interests of the rich and business are pitted against those of the poor and middle class, the theme of the threads are invariably right vs. left.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    these loans these students racked up......

    did they sign those notes voluntarily?

    were they in a language the kids could understand?

    did they have parent overseeing some of the documents, and telling them "yeah, go ahead and sign"

    did the colleges collect all the money....paid to the faculties, and administrators?

    but now, the dems want to change the rules.....

    they want the loans to be refinanced, and they just want rich people to pay for it

    sorry.....no

    if your credit history is good enough, some people can get their loans redone in better terms

    but to just knock down rates for all those loans because now it is hard to pay? sorry.....suck it up kiddies

    life is a bitch....it is hard.....you are no longer living in your parents basement sheltered from the big bad world

    you signed a contract.....be an adult, and live with it......or figure out how to make it better
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

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