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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You said, "plain and simple, capital is superior to labor". But only one can exist without the other. Plain and simple.
    So? Just because capital can't exist without labor doesn't mean labor is superior.

    Why don't you try going a week without using capital? I bet you can't.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    So? Just because capital can't exist without labor doesn't mean labor is superior.

    Why don't you try going a week without using capital? I bet you can't.
    Actually I live in a solar powered house, I catch the rain for my water, I grow a garden, raise beef, cook and heat on wood stoves. I could easily go a week without capital. And labor was what sustained humans and their near predecessors for millions of years before the creation of capital.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Actually I live in a solar powered house, I catch the rain for my water, I grow a garden, raise beef, cook and heat on wood stoves. I could easily go a week without capital. And labor was what sustained humans and their near predecessors for millions of years before the creation of capital.
    So you don't use any tools to catch the rain or raise your beef or tend your garden? Just your bare hands?

    Oh wait, you use a stove. That's capital.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    So you don't use any tools to catch the rain or raise your beef or tend your garden? Just your bare hands?

    Oh wait, you use a stove. That's capital.
    Not without labor it's not. And you ignored my point that humans existed far longer on labor with no capital, than they have on labor with capital. So yes you can survive without one, but NOT the other.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not without labor it's not. And you ignored my point that humans existed far longer on labor with no capital, than they have on labor with capital. So yes you can survive without one, but NOT the other.
    So? That doesn't mean labor is superior. And a stove is still capital without labor. Capital makes your life immensely easier and makes your standard of living immensely better, whether you want to admit it or not.

    You use capital all the time. Try doing without it.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by freeRadical View Post
    So? That doesn't mean labor is superior. And a stove is still capital without labor. Capital makes your life immensely easier and makes your standard of living immensely better, whether you want to admit it or not.

    You use capital all the time. Try doing without it.
    Who's denying that capital is an improvement. I'm arguing that it definitively is NOT superior, because as Lincoln correctly noted, capitals creator is labor. And there now, I'm finished will your silliness on this. Have the last word, and then we'll put this to rest. do svidan'ya!
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Who's denying that capital is an improvement. I'm arguing that it definitively is NOT superior, because as Lincoln correctly noted, capitals creator is labor. And there now, I'm finished will your silliness on this. Have the last word, and then we'll put this to rest. do svidan'ya!
    Of course capital is superior. What do you think living standards would be like without capital? Productivity of labor would be very low without capital.
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