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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Sounds like more hen philosophy to me.

    so you dont understand basic business 101

    got it
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    so you dont understand basic business 101

    got it
    You say that, but then you make statements like this

    everyone is replaceable, except the owner"

    i hope you understand that basic fact in every company
    That is hen philosophy.

    The thing is this, you then contradict yourself without even knowing it by saying this

    they can sell to someone else, who takes on their responsibilities....that happens all the time


    Any rate, like I said, you are a hen philosopher.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Why would you spend time thanking and helping people you distrust?

    So you think troops serve for their self interest?

    Also you canstick your assumptions.
    Now we see the hate.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    IOW, the regulators have to be independent, without any interest in that which they're monitoring.
    Independent of the government?
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Dude, do you want a garment factory with 100 employees working on the fifth floor to have a single exit down a long hallway to a three foot wide stairwell. Are you in favor of health inspectors checking the restaurant kitchen to make sure expired food isn't being served, that the water is hot enough in the dishwasher. I could point you to examples all day, point is, you don't know it, but you do not want to live in a society that does not regulate and monitor business.
    No I don't. But that's a typical lefty strawman. Capitalism and the circumstances that I tried to get you to reply to address those problems.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Employees mostly go to their forty hour a week job with job security and without having to worry about rather or not a banker will provide the funds for next months expenses, worry about OSHA inspections or new competition or losing good employees or … About 50% of new businesses fail in the first 4 years according to some estimates and that's on the conservative side. There's no way that employees deserve the same compensation that the owners who take the risks do unless you consider the new entrepreneurs who work the first years with little or no compensation.

    If you want the compensation of a doctor then become a doctor. If you want the compensation of an entrepreneur then become an entrepreneur. If you want a forty hour a week job with little stress and lots of time with family and friends then work for someone else at the best salary you can negotiate.

    Labor is a commodity much like the commodity that the businesses we work for provide. Businesses promote the value of their product to get as much compensation as they can for their product and labor has the same opportunity.

    BTW I was one who chose family and friends over making a lot of money.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Now we see the hate.
    Now we see the back pedal and deflection

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Independent of the government?
    That makes no sense. Only the government has the teeth of enforcement.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    No I don't. But that's a typical lefty strawman. Capitalism and the circumstances that I tried to get you to reply to address those problems.
    Wtf?? How is that a strawman, and why you calling me a lefty? A society without regulation is anarchy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Employees mostly go to their forty hour a week job with job security and without having to worry about rather or not a banker will provide the funds for next months expenses, worry about OSHA inspections or new competition or losing good employees or … About 50% of new businesses fail in the first 4 years according to some estimates and that's on the conservative side. There's no way that employees deserve the same compensation that the owners who take the risks do unless you consider the new entrepreneurs who work the first years with little or no compensation.

    If you want the compensation of a doctor then become a doctor. If you want the compensation of an entrepreneur then become an entrepreneur. If you want a forty hour a week job with little stress and lots of time with family and friends then work for someone else at the best salary you can negotiate.

    Labor is a commodity much like the commodity that the businesses we work for provide. Businesses promote the value of their product to get as much compensation as they can for their product and labor has the same opportunity.

    BTW I was one who chose family and friends over making a lot of money.
    From the right.

    Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

    Abraham Lincoln

    Read more at Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and... - Abraham Lincoln at BrainyQuote
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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