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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Of course, that doesn't actually happen nearly as often as you guys claim. But hey, cool story.
    Happens quite often...especially as elections approach.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Provide most of the jobs in this country for them?
    For them? Hmmm

    Do you have a source to support that claim?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans appear to be determined to block any sort of efforts designed to help the middle class. For example they opposed this effort to allow students to refinance their student loans



    GOP blocks Warren

    They also have voiced opposition to Obama's plan to provide free community college and opposed extending unemployment insurance to unemployed Americans.

    Are Republicans against helping the middle class?
    Are democrats against helping the middle class? Because the national Democratic Party is blocking legislation to increase timber harvesting, which would employ many people in rural towns across the country, they've blocked construction projects like the keystone pipeline, and are now trying to block the shell drilling fleet from basing in the port of seattle.

    So they're really not much better.
    And it's clear what it's about anyway, warren wants to court college voters for a 2016 run. It's not about truly helping them. There's more college students then loggers, or construction workers, so if you're not In a special interest group warrens interested in, keep struggling because she has a big cold **** you with your name on it

    I'm against refinancing the student loans, student loans are a bad deal all around, allowing refinancing only prolongs the problem, what we need is a collapse of the student loan system, so many defaults the private bankers step out of the system and the government stops backing them
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Are democrats against helping the middle class? Because the national Democratic Party is blocking legislation to increase timber harvesting, which would employ many people in rural towns across the country, they've blocked construction projects like the keystone pipeline, and are now trying to block the shell drilling fleet from basing in the port of seattle.

    So they're really not much better.

    I'm against refinancing the student loans, student loans are a bad deal all around, allowing refinancing only prolongs the problem, what we need is a collapse of the student loan system, so many defaults the private bankers step out of the system and the government stops backing them
    Wait really? Timber harvesting is destructive to the environment and creates temporary jobs, it should be discouraged. The keystone pipeline? You mean the pipeline that would create 35 permanent jobs? The Shell drilling fleet? Disgusting, the last thing we need is to encourage environmental destruction.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Wait really? Timber harvesting is destructive to the environment and creates temporary jobs, it should be discouraged. The keystone pipeline? You mean the pipeline that would create 35 permanent jobs? The Shell drilling fleet? Disgusting, the last thing we need is to encourage environmental destruction.
    No timber harvesting is destructive to the environment as pictured by yuppies who's view of environmental science comes from Bambi. Harvesting creates new environment where there is adequate food for animals such as deer and thus cougars coyotes wolves etc. this romanticized view of old-growth forest is missed placed, Big trees are nothing but big weeds.

    Furthermore the jobs are not temporary, because if you use a responsible forestry policy there will always be trees to harvest.

    A pipeline that long will create more than 35 jobs by the way, there will be many thousands employed in the construction, not to mention any repairs a pipeline will need will take more than 35 people.

    When you give up all modern life and go live in a hovel then I'll consider your gripe about the Arctic drilling fleet to be legitimate
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No timber harvesting is destructive to the environment as pictured by yuppies who's view of environmental science comes from Bambi. Harvesting creates new environment where there is adequate food for animals such as deer and thus cougars coyotes wolves etc. this romanticized view of old-growth forest is missed placed, Big trees are nothing but big weeds.

    Furthermore the jobs are not temporary, because if you use a responsible forestry policy there will always be trees to harvest.

    A pipeline that long will create more than 35 jobs by the way, there will be many thousands employed in the construction, not to mention any repairs a pipeline will need will take more than 35 people.

    When you give up all modern life and go live in a hovel then I'll consider your gripe about the Arctic drilling fleet to be legitimate
    I guess if it was done correctly, I can agree on the timber harvesting point.
    Wait "Big trees are nothing but big weeds?"
    I agree, we do need a responsible forestry policy, where is it?
    Will Keystone XL pipeline create 42,000 ‘new’ jobs? - The Washington Post - Consider the cost, the environmental impact... doesn't add up.
    Really? Arctic drilling has many risks, and any mistakes would be catastrophic. If we're going to do it, do it with strict regulations.
    Look at the exxon tanker spill. Going Green: Remembering the Lessons of the 'Exxon Valdez' - TIME

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    No timber harvesting is destructive to the environment as pictured by yuppies who's view of environmental science comes from Bambi. Harvesting creates new environment where there is adequate food for animals such as deer and thus cougars coyotes wolves etc. this romanticized view of old-growth forest is missed placed, Big trees are nothing but big weeds.

    Furthermore the jobs are not temporary, because if you use a responsible forestry policy there will always be trees to harvest.

    A pipeline that long will create more than 35 jobs by the way, there will be many thousands employed in the construction, not to mention any repairs a pipeline will need will take more than 35 people.

    When you give up all modern life and go live in a hovel then I'll consider your gripe about the Arctic drilling fleet to be legitimate
    Wait, amazon rainforest? Malaysia? I agree, with strict regulations to make sure it's actually done right.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    For them? Hmmm

    Do you have a source to support that claim?
    Greetings, MildSteel.

    If Forbes and Wiki are acceptable sources, here is what they say.

    Walton family - Wal-Mart employs over 2.1 million people.

    Koch Brothers - Koch Industries employ over 50,000 people in the US alone, and employ more union people than Nancy Pelosi.

    Cargill family - Cargill employs over 140,000 people

    Johnson family - Fidelity employs over 140,000 people

    Hearst family - unknown amount employed by this communications giant

    There are probably more, but there's a start.

    In addition, small business owners are the Republicans largest demographic.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Our government has no defined roll of regulating business. I wish you were as well versed on capitalism as you seem to be on socialism/communism. If you were I think you would see how capitalism is supposed to work and why regulation makes it something other than capitalism. I agree that men are not angels. But that applies to all men rather they work for the government or private enterprise. When we understand that and when we understand that we all serve our self interest then we should understand that people in government have more power than people in the private sector and so should be feared more than the private sector.
    Everybody sucks. So, you have to have regulation with the regulators out of the loop.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    The people who came to power in that era, and many now, did so as a result of government support. To my reading the circumstances of employment were changed to to the work of unions. Politicians then piggybacked on those accomplishments.

    Are you really saying that someone has a right to claimed damages without having to prove the damages?
    No. That would be crazy, who thinks that. I illustrated that without fences, capital hurts labor!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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