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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Sure. "From each acording to his own abilities, to each according to his needs"

    The trouble is, under that system, there always tend to be more claimed needs than claimed abilities.

    Ford invented the Ford because he wanted to drive a big fancy automobile. Not because he wanted to tool around in a little plain aitomobile.
    That's a good point, but it really depends on the mentality of the individuals and how the needs/goods are distributed.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "Simplistic" is as far as I would go. Of course if you ask any conservative if they support the middle class they're going to say yes. But if you told them that supporting the middle class would result in corporations or the rich losing something in the bargain you're going to get a very different reaction.
    There is a large difference between being against using one group of people for the benefit of another group of people and being against a whole group of people.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is a large difference between being against using one group of people for the benefit of another group of people and being against a whole group of people.
    Right, you're prioritizing the needs of one group over another. I'm not disputing that.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What, are you new here? "Everything bad is because Democrats" is pretty much SOP on this forum.
    Sort of like the libruls screaming racism if Obama is criticised?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Right, you're prioritizing the needs of one group over another. I'm not disputing that.
    This isn't about needs or priorities. This is about one group of people being abused so that another group of people can have something.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is a large difference between being against using one group of people for the benefit of another group of people and being against a whole group of people.
    This is the point I think some just don't see. Saying that Group A should not be forced to involuntarily provide for or service Group B is not at all the same thing as saying Group A doesn't care about Group B.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Sort of like the libruls screaming racism if Obama is criticised?
    Of course, that doesn't actually happen nearly as often as you guys claim. But hey, cool story.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    It would seem that a significant amount think that Republicans are not against helping the middle class. But I only see Republicans actively trying to destroy the middle class to pump up the rich just a little bit more.
    Republican rich worship has reached an all new level and has become something more resembling a religion than an ideology.
    Most Republicans live in mobile homes in my experience, yet they tend to want to give everything they can to the most wealthy and ONLY the most wealthy.

    What I'd like to know is, "What have Republicans ever done for the middle class?" If they are not against the middle class then what have they actually done, ever?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    So you believe you have the right to do stupid things like borrow more than you can afford to repay, which you do, and the government and the taxpayer has the obligation to make you whole, which they don't.
    What you just put forward is very stupid and here's why. You are saying that I borrow more than I can afford to pay? Exactly how much have I borrowed? I want to dollar amount. Exactly how much do I make? I want the dollar amount. Furthermore, I am a taxpayer, and I have a right to say that the government should allow people to refinance their student loans.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Your argument is not that the government prevents you from refinancing your loan, but rather that the government should pick up part or all the costs incurred in the refinancing.
    No that is not the argument at all. What you have made is another very stupid statement. I said the government should allow people to refinance their student loan debt. That does not mean that the government is preventing them from doing so. It means that the government should have a program that allows people the opportunity to refinance their debt at lower rates. It does not cost the government any money to refinance a loan at a lower rate, except maybe some administrative costs, that could be covered with a fee. The point of the government making student loans is to facilitate people getting an education, not to make money by gouging student loan customers with interest rates that are far in excess than what the government pays to borrow money.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    It would seem that a significant amount think that Republicans are not against helping the middle class. But I only see Republicans actively trying to destroy the middle class to pump up the rich just a little bit more.
    Republican rich worship has reached an all new level and has become something more resembling a religion than an ideology.
    Most Republicans live in mobile homes in my experience, yet they tend to want to give everything they can to the most wealthy and ONLY the most wealthy.

    What I'd like to know is, "What have Republicans ever done for the middle class?" If they are not against the middle class then what have they actually done, ever?
    Greetings, Painter.

    Provide most of the jobs in this country for them? Now it's your turn - what do wealthy Democrats do for the middle class?

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