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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Why are education costs so high in the US?
    Here in the United States we have two industries whose purchases are mostly funded by the federal government - education, and healthcare.

    We also have two industries whose prices have been skyrocketing way ahead of inflation even as quality growth has stalled - education, and healthcare.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have no use for nationalism or views that serve to hold back the development of third world countries. Protectionism might serve to boost markets for those areas they are designed to protect, but they harm everyone else in the process and further enable harmful policy by enabling uncompetitive markets to strive.
    You are globalist, I am not. I do not care about the third world I do not want the rest of the world 'helped" out at the expense of Americans. As globalist you wish to see American manufacturing disappear I do not.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans appear to be determined to block any sort of efforts designed to help the middle class. For example they opposed this effort to allow students to refinance their student loans

    GOP blocks Warren

    They also have voiced opposition to Obama's plan to provide free community college and opposed extending unemployment insurance to unemployed Americans.

    Are Republicans against helping the middle class?
    That bill had nothing to do with helping the middle class. If the Democrats had presented a clean bill allowing student and opportunity to refinance their student loans using normal financing rules, there would have been no objection as that would have given a break to the middle class. But the other part of that bill is that the lowered interest rate would have diminished federal treasury receipts and the Democrats intended to offset that with an alternate minimum tax of 30% on high earning Americans. And it was THAT the GOP saw as unacceptable. So did a lot of Democrats. The bill only got 38 votes.

    I can't speak for all Republicans, but IMO the conservatives/libertarians (little "L") among us are mostly quite supportive of anything that will help the middle class and that would include a lot of Republicans. They see less intrusive expensive government as the way to help the middle class, however, instead of more and more government.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    No idea, just look at Germany and finland, and other European countries, what the **** are we doing???

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Here in the United States we have two industries whose purchases are mostly funded by the federal government - education, and healthcare.

    We also have two industries whose prices have been skyrocketing way ahead of inflation even as quality growth has stalled - education, and healthcare.

    Health care costs - inflation increases are now much lower.
    What are the factors driving the high cost of education in the US?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Here in the United States we have two industries whose purchases are mostly funded by the federal government - education, and healthcare.

    We also have two industries whose prices have been skyrocketing way ahead of inflation even as quality growth has stalled - education, and healthcare.

    That is worth repeating, even though it will fall on deaf ears.

    BTW, I'm not for the poor, or the middle class, or the rich. I'm for opportunity for all. The more the liberals try to balance the field the more it gets out of kilter.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    No idea, just look at Germany and finland, and other European countries, what the **** are we doing???
    Germany uses streaming do they not?
    Also much higher tax rates as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are globalist, I am not. I do not care about the third world I do not want the rest of the world 'helped" out at the expense of Americans. As globalist you wish to see American manufacturing disappear I do not.
    I do not wish anything of the sort. I wish for consumers and business alike to benefit from competition. I do not wish for a market strangulated by government regulation or a market where business is locked out from competing in certain countries. I want a market that is not only competitive for business, but is competitive for individuals, so they have more choices for jobs and places to buy goods and services. A competitive market no matter the scale breeds innovation, lower prices and higher wages. That is why I push for the world to be open for all to compete.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Health care costs - inflation increases are now much lower.
    What are the factors driving the high cost of education in the US?
    Health care costs are not lower for everybody or in general. It is less expensive for those who don't pay for it or are subsidized.

    The high cost of education is caused be federally supported student loans. People who use other people's money for their purposes are never as careful with their spending as those who use their own money.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I not wish anything of the sort. I wish for consumers and business alike to benefit from competition. I do not wish for a market strangulated by government regulation or a market where business is locked out from competing in certain countries. I want a market that is not only competitive for business, but is competitive for individuals, so they have more choices for jobs and places to buy goods and services.
    Saying you wish for laws that make it easy for companies to set up shop in other countries while saying you wish for companies to stay here is a contradictory statement. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if a company can set up shop in another country and pay those workers next to nothing then that is what is going to happen, they are not going to stay where they have to pay someone more money.This is why slavery happened for a long time, because using your logic that is why slavery stayed around for a long time in most of the world.So yes you do wish for manufacturers to leave the US.You also wish countries like China to strengthen it's military and be a potential threat to us in the future seeing how that is where all those tax dollars on manufacturing are going.
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