Therefore the government should allow student loan customers to refinance their loans.Originally Posted by joG
Therefore the government should allow student loan customers to refinance their loans.
OK. I'm going to go back over it again.
That is not true because people are not confined to state boundaries due to the large amount of interstate travel and communication. As a result of that what one state does can have a large effect on the people of other states.
That is not true. It is a deception that people like Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, and Glenn Beck have propagated to demonize government in the minds of the middle class because they know that the only thing that is keeping the wealthy of this country from exploiting the middle class to death is government. Now what is true is that since the presidency of George W Bush, the government has assumed power that has eroded the civil liberties of everyone and that is disturbing. However that is something that has been supported by Republicans and Democrats as well. No, what has hurt the middle class the most is the outsourcing of jobs overseas which is something that Republicans have championed, and people like Bill Clinton as well. Over and above that, Republicans have opposed things like allowing people to refinance their student loans, extending unemployment benefits to middle class workers displaced due to the recession, and free community college. All three of these things would actually help the middle class, and Republicans have opposed all three.
That is not true. The poor want better jobs and better opportunities to get themselves out of poverty. Government can play a role in facilitating such. That does not mean that the poor want to middle class to serve them. Again, this is a distortion that has been placed into the minds of the middle class by people like Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, and Glenn Beck. They have done this to distract the middle class from the fact that the capitalist class is forcing them to work harder simply to make ends meet. By demonizing the poor in this way, the attention of the middle class has been diverted from the real culprits to a class of people who are very easily victimized because they have no power. The poor have no power to make the middle class serve them. The wealthy people can and do exercise the power to force the middle class to serve them. That is the reality of the situation.
Now, there you go. Those are your words verbatim and I have gone through it again, point by point. Here is your chance to shine. Defend your statements.
Is see no reason why anyone should be forbidden to renegotiate or refinance their education with any lender that agrees to a better deal. Fortunately, there aren't any prohibitions against that, so I don't see the problem.
You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.
Again you make unsupported remarks.
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
"...he did not note the entire process..."
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
Our government has no defined roll of regulating business. I wish you were as well versed on capitalism as you seem to be on socialism/communism. If you were I think you would see how capitalism is supposed to work and why regulation makes it something other than capitalism. I agree that men are not angels. But that applies to all men rather they work for the government or private enterprise. When we understand that and when we understand that we all serve our self interest then we should understand that people in government have more power than people in the private sector and so should be feared more than the private sector.
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
The people who came to power in that era, and many now, did so as a result of government support. To my reading the circumstances of employment were changed to to the work of unions. Politicians then piggybacked on those accomplishments.
Are you really saying that someone has a right to claimed damages without having to prove the damages?
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
You must think that people in government can be trusted to do the right thing. LOL. What I think is that we all serve our self interest and that people in government have more power to pursue those interests, at our expense, if we choose to give them that power, which you do.
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
Capitalism has made more people wealthy while socialism makes those with the right connections, crony capitalism, wealthy. If you want to work hard and risk resources to be rich you have that opportunity with capitalism. If you want to work forty hours a week and spend time with you family and friends you have that opportunity with capitalism.
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
H. L. Mencken
Agreed. The reality is that it is the Democrats who are harming the middle class. They do so with their class warfare schemes. When they make a big play of socking it to the rich, they simply hope that most cannot workout that every time they sock it to the rich....the extra cost runs downhill and squarely hits the middle class in a higher cost of goods and services.
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