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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    They obviously struggle, the minimum wage can't substantiate debt and cost of living.
    That was exactly my point to begin with. A great number can't find employment in their field of study much less a good paying job.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    government which is closer to the people is always better government.

    government is not here to make you the sort of person they desire, government is here to secure rights, that is governments purpose only.
    And at least if a state screws up, it only screws things up for the people of that one state and not 49 others. When the federal government screws up, it screws everybody and there is no escape.

    And those complaining how Republicans 'hate the middle class' don't seem to realize that the one thing that has hurt the middle class most is more and more power taken by the federal government leaving less and less power to the middle class. The very rich can go elsewhere to advantage themselves and the poor are largely in favor of the federal government forcing the middle class to serve them. And those in government don't seem to notice or care how the middle class is being hurt.

    So who hates the middle class most? The Republicans who at least recognize the problem? Or the Democrats who argue to not only keep such a system but to make it bigger and stronger?
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not from looking at the normal people that frequent public forums I'm not. If the Democrats in congress are making voting decisions that favor corporate interests over those of the middle class then they're not representing our values.
    Good luck exposing those democrats for who they are.Because when we conservatives expose republicans who do not represent conservative values we tend to get called extremists, teabaggers, and other epithets by the liberal media.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans appear to be determined to block any sort of efforts designed to help the middle class. For example they opposed this effort to allow students to refinance their student loans



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    They also have voiced opposition to Obama's plan to provide free community college and opposed extending unemployment insurance to unemployed Americans.

    Are Republicans against helping the middle class?
    The middle class should be paying their own way. Only brilliant kids might be given stipends. But why from the government?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Good luck exposing those democrats for who they are.Because when we conservatives expose republicans who do not represent conservative values we tend to get called extremists, teabaggers, and other epithets by the liberal media.
    If I were to track down the list of every democrat in Congress who voted for NAFTA, who do you expect would call me out as an extremist?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The middle class should be paying their own way.
    Refinancing a loan is paying your own way.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And at least if a state screws up, it only screws things up for the people of that one state and not 49 others. When the federal government screws up, it screws everybody and there is no escape.
    That is not correct because quite frequently people move across interstate boundaries. If people were confined to the state of their residence what you said would be true. But today especially, because of advances in transportation and communication, what states do have an effect nationwide.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    And those complaining how Republicans 'hate the middle class' don't seem to realize that the one thing that has hurt the middle class most is more and more power taken by the federal government leaving less and less power to the middle class.
    No that is not true. That is what people like Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, and Glenn Beck have fooled people into believing. Now what is true is that the erosion of civil liberties due the policies of the Republican administration of George Bush and continued under Barack Obama have hurt the middle class in terms of civil liberties, but that is a different matter than economically speaking.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    The very rich can go elsewhere to advantage themselves and the poor are largely in favor of the federal government forcing the middle class to serve them.
    The poor can't force anyone to do anything in this country. That is a very inaccurate statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So who hates the middle class most? The Republicans who at least recognize the problem? Or the Democrats who argue to not only keep such a system but to make it bigger and stronger?
    Republicans have brainwashed people into believing that, but in reality, their policies have been hostile to middle class interests.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you don't think regulated capitalism can be a benefit to everyone?
    This is the type of thing I am talking about. Even when its regulated it ends up with the wealthy having so much power that they can make people believe this

    the poor are largely in favor of the federal government forcing the middle class to serve them.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064468378

    That is dangerous.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    This is the type of thing I am talking about. Even when its regulated it ends up with the wealthy having so much power that they can make people believe this



    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064468378

    That is dangerous.
    That's the beauty of capitalism, it inevitably favors the wealthy.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    That's the beauty of capitalism, it inevitably favors the wealthy.
    That is too much power to have. What that example illustrates is how the wealthy have been able to demonize the poor in the minds of the middle class to distract their attention from the fact that the wealthy are actually working them to death and giving them very little in return relative to the benefits that the wealthy are getting from their labor. It is truly remarkable.

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