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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not whinnying about capitalism, it's preferred to dictatorship, monarchy, oligarchy, kings and queens, despots, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, or any other ambition that compromises individual liberty, but it MUST be regulated!
    Regulating capitalism cause the perversion of crony capitalism. Regulating capitalism makes that capitalism something other than capitalism. Free markets are not free when regulated.

    I'd be all for the states experimenting with this as it would prove for all to see what works and what does not. That was the intention of our system. But progressives have slipped socialism in at the federal level where it does not belong.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you don't think regulated capitalism can be a benefit to everyone?
    Even if it is regulated, over time it will produce distortions in wealth that will led to those with wealth having far too much power than what is good for human society. Unless you mean regulating it so heavily until it is really not capitalism anymore.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You ignored my point on religion, and if democrats are all irresponsible. Unbelievable. Here is some advice from Jesus.
    All dems are not irresponsible. Just those who apparently envy and hate people who work hard for what they have and don't mind helping those who need help, but don't want the fruits of their hard work taken and given to people who won't work because they don't have to.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    If we allow individual states to do it, that will be even worse. It shouldn't be hard to see why.
    Maybe you could explain why instead of doing what you accuse others of doing, dodging the question. The we might have a meaningful discussion instead of all this hate.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Incentive to take a job comes with the expiration of benefits. This is a proven fact.

    The rest of your post about penises and whatnot is completely off topic. Your assertion that I must not be black, though, well that just shows us all your propensity to rely on stereotypes yourself and assume characteristics for people you have never met. Hell, I don't believe I've given one clue on this board as to my ethnic makeup.

    You're not serious about debate. I thought perhaps your opening post was designed to illicit a response for rebuttal, but no. You're just a troll.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I think the government itself doesn't like the middle class. They only want poor people to take care of and rich people to pay them. As for people themselves who are republican, yes they do care.
    I think the government is made up of politicians who care more about how to get votes than the best policies for the people and the country. And that's the reason that socialism is so bad, because its advertised as being the people. But its actually the elected people. Can you imagine our elected officials running the food industry the way they run the Post Office? We'd soon be trillions of dollars in debt headed for a financial disaster with no apparent interest in getting things under control because voters would not vote for representatives who want to reduce benefits to match costs or to raise taxes to match benefits. Oh, wait a minute...
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Even if it is regulated, over time it will produce distortions in wealth that will led to those with wealth having far too much power than what is good for human society. Unless you mean regulating it so heavily until it is really not capitalism anymore.
    Regulating capitalism and suggesting it is still capitalism is like staining plastic and calling it wood.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. I shoot heavy flame and blood suckers. Its not for the weak at heart.
    Hate speech does not lead to thoughtful discussion.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Regulating capitalism cause the perversion of crony capitalism. Regulating capitalism makes that capitalism something other than capitalism. Free markets are not free when regulated.

    I'd be all for the states experimenting with this as it would prove for all to see what works and what does not. That was the intention of our system. But progressives have slipped socialism in at the federal level where it does not belong.
    My friend, seriously? You have this all backwards. Unregulated capitalism allows "crony capitalism"!! Are you familiar with the gilded age through the 1920's, do you know the main reason for the financial crash of 1929, the force behind the New Deal, and the reforms and regulations put in place in the 1930's? Unions, the forty hour work week, social security, etc., etc.. This produced a strong middle class that grew and thrived through the 1970's. This has been reversing since Reagan deregulated the financial industry which was put under heavy regulation during the early depression.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Even if it is regulated, over time it will produce distortions in wealth that will led to those with wealth having far too much power than what is good for human society. Unless you mean regulating it so heavily until it is really not capitalism anymore.
    No, it can be over regulated too. What we had from about 1930-1980 was about right.
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