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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What you really trying to say is that terminating unemployment insurance causes people to become employed. And that is a bunch of bull****. That is just like me saying that there is a study that shows black males have larger penis sizes than whites. Therefore my penis is bigger than yours.



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    Having said that, I don't dispute that terminating unemployment insurance might make someone more desperate to find a job. Therefore a displaced aerospace engineer might accept a job a Burger King if that is all he can find. But even that might not be available. So, the point is this, having a suitable job causes people to get off of unemployment insurance. Not only that, what they pay is ridiculous. I know I could not meet my expenses with the maximum of what they pay. Perhaps some could and maybe as a result they will milk it out, but I know I could not.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Teach a man to work, and hope he finds a job with a livable wage, teach a man to fish, and hope he lives near a body of water and has fishing supplies. Liberals are doing both in regards to the statements you make, look at how long people stay on the programs and how many are working, don't be so ignorant.
    Liberals are doing nothing. Heck, look at your picture, liberals are keeping everyone from enjoying the game, they aren't actually getting the people who can't see the game from doing anything about it.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Liberals are doing nothing. Heck, look at your picture, liberals are keeping everyone from enjoying the game, they aren't actually getting the people who can't see the game from doing anything about it.
    Wrong picture plug, accidentally took that from the wrong source, the original has boxes stacking with them holding hands so everyone can see the game. They're doing nothing?
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What you really trying to say is that terminating unemployment insurance causes people to become employed. And that is a bunch of bull****. That is just like me saying that there is a study that shows black males have larger penis sizes than whites. Therefore my penis is bigger than yours.
    Incentive to take a job comes with the expiration of benefits. This is a proven fact.

    The rest of your post about penises and whatnot is completely off topic. Your assertion that I must not be black, though, well that just shows us all your propensity to rely on stereotypes yourself and assume characteristics for people you have never met. Hell, I don't believe I've given one clue on this board as to my ethnic makeup.

    You're not serious about debate. I thought perhaps your opening post was designed to illicit a response for rebuttal, but no. You're just a troll.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't know about all that. The thing is this, capitalism will not work out well if markets are not free. The problem with government restriction and regulation is that it introduces a player into the market that makes it difficult for players to predict. As an example, consider the financial crisis of 2008. If you were a player and you were looking at market conditions at that time, without government interference certain institutions would have certainly failed. Now let's suppose you were looking at that, and anticipating the failure of an institution you heavily invested your money in its competitor. However, all of the sudden the government steps in, and saves the institution because the Treasury Secretary used to be the CEO there. It then turns out that the one you invested in becomes the one that fails. That's one problem. The next thing, closely related is that you have to be able to trust the government to interfere and regulate fairly. But government is controlled by politicians, who in turn are controlled by money. So people and corporations with large amounts of money will use the system to their advantage and to the disadvantage of others.

    Over and above all that, even if you did a halfway decent job of regulating it, capitalism by its intrinsic nature produces distortions in wealth distributions that lead to the wealthy getting more wealth and more power, at the expense of those who are not. Unless they use that power wisely, which they will not because of greed, there will be all kinds of problems.

    Therefore, I don't know sometimes, although I hate to come to that conclusion, perhaps a socialist model is better for human society. Just speculating.
    So you don't think regulated capitalism can be a benefit to everyone?
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you don't think regulated capitalism can be a benefit to everyone?
    You can look at our own history to see how "beneficial' unregulated capitalism is.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Higher tax rates compared with a higher standard of living, lower cost of living, higher wages, and little debt. Also, Doesn't America have the most expensive education in the world? I say we need higher taxes based on wealth, heck, a system similar to Germany, but that's another point. The college system is utter bull****, and it's screwed my generation. (16)
    It has screwed the millennial generation mostly to the extent that that generation makes poor decisions and goes deeply into debt for degree programs that will not actually provide employment.

    mind you, lots of my friends are in that trap, I sympathize. But we didn't have to listen to our idiot parents' generation when they told us that Only 5 Years Studying Sociology At $30K A Year Would Protect Us From Burger Flipping For Life.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    You can look at our own history to see how "beneficial' unregulated capitalism is.
    depends on what you mean by that. If by that you mean "anarchy", then, no, that's not much benefit to anyone. If by it, however, you mean capitalism, then yes, we can see amazing positive results - more people have been lifted out of poverty in the past 40 years by free trade than in the previous 40 centuries.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    depends on what you mean by that. If by that you mean "anarchy", then, no, that's not much benefit to anyone. If by it, however, you mean capitalism, then yes, we can see amazing positive results - more people have been lifted out of poverty in the past 40 years by free trade than in the previous 40 centuries.
    I'll leave this here, have your own opinion on it, but regulation is needed.
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    Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein: 'There's no place for pure, unregulated capitalism' - Feb. 24, 2015 - Interesting read
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    These are all on the front page when searching "Unregulated capitalism" I can't find anything discussing the positives, feel free to hook me up.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I'll leave this here, have your own opinion on it, but regulation is needed.
    5 Ways That Raw, Unregulated Capitalism Is Acting Like a Cancer on American Society | Alternet
    Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein: 'There's no place for pure, unregulated capitalism' - Feb. 24, 2015 - Interesting read
    The evils of unregulated capitalism - Al Jazeera English

    These are all on the front page when searching "Unregulated capitalism" I can't find anything discussing the positives, feel free to hook me up.
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