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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans appear to be determined to block any sort of efforts designed to help the middle class. For example they opposed this effort to allow students to refinance their student loans


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    ...which was poison-pilled with an extreme hike in effective tax rates on the wealthy.

    They also have voiced opposition to Obama's plan to provide free community college...
    ...paid for with what? And what affect would that have on the University system at large?

    ...and opposed extending unemployment insurance to unemployed Americans.
    That same unemployment insurance that study after study has shown to keep people out of the workforce for longer periods of time?

    Are Republicans against helping the middle class?
    If you don't make several cases of false equivalence coupled to false dichotomies, then no, it doesn't look like they are doing anything negative to the middle class. It would be nice if Republicans came up with some plans of their own to help, but it seems they are busy keeping some truly awful ideas at bay from the other camp. Can't rebuild the building if someone is still actively setting it on fire.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    ...which was poison-pilled with an extreme hike in effective tax rates on the wealthy.
    What? You want to burden student loan consumers, but you don't want the wealthy to be encumbered? What kind of **** is that? Sounds like just what I said, Republicans are against the middle class and for the wealthy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    ...paid for with what? And what affect would that have on the University system at large?
    What in the hell do you mean paid for with what? Paid for with the same damn money that has been spent towards the Republican rat hole that is Iraq. Trillions of dollars on a Republican led, Dick Cheney, wild goose chase. Why in the hell didn't Republicans complain about paid for with what then? But when it comes to helping the middle class with something like free community college they start bitching about "paid for with what." Why in the hell don't they bitch about "paid for with what" when it is time to send weapons to overthrow Assad in Syria? Why don't they bitch about "paid for with what" when it is time to bomb Iran? Why don't they bitch about " paid for with what" when it is time to send weapons to Ukraine? That "paid for with what" is a bunch of worn out crap **** that is merely an excuse to hide Republican hostility to programs that will help the middle class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    That same unemployment insurance that study after study has shown to keep people out of the workforce for longer periods of time?
    Study after study my ass. Unemployment insurance does not keep people out of work. It is sending jobs overseas that keep people out of work. Republicans, and fools like Bill Clinton, are all about sending jobs overseas. And then when people can't find work, Republicans want to say its unemployment insurance that is keeping them unemployed. Again, it is no more than Republican hostility towards the middle class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    If you don't make several cases of false equivalence coupled to false dichotomies, then no, it doesn't look like they are doing anything negative to the middle class.
    The only thing that you have done is posted a bunch of stupid nonsense that demonstrates a profound inability to see what is actually happening. Republicans are screwing the middle class and are merely using them to create more wealth for the rich. If you can't see that you are blind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    It would be nice if Republicans came up with some plans of their own to help, but it seems they are busy keeping some truly awful ideas at bay from the other camp.
    Yes it would be nice if they did come up with some plans of their own. Why can't they? Because they have a hostility towards the middle class and want to use them to create more wealth for the wealthy. There isn't a damn thing bad about letting student loan customers refinance their loans. It's bad if you are a Republican that hates the middle class.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Republicans are against the middle class and for the wealthy.
    Yes, we are. Can we shut the **** up about it now? Please?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, we are. Can we shut the **** up about it now? Please?
    Sure, once the Republican politicians start openly acknowledging to, too. But the Republican Party is not as honest and open about their plutocracy as you are. They are actively engaged in mislead the public into thinking that they are supporting the interest of average people.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    They are actively engaged in mislead the public into thinking that they are supporting the interest of average people.
    Wow, just like the Dims. What a cowinkydink.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, we are. Can we shut the **** up about it now? Please?
    No, and here's why

    1. Republicans are on record for opposing letting student loan consumers refinance their debt
    2. Republicans are against Obama's free community college proposal
    3. Republicans were against extending unemployment benefits to workers struggling from the effects of the recession

    Here, Republicans have said no, no, no to things that would help the middle class.

    Now one might wonder with all that negativity what are for. Well here is what they are for

    1. Republicans championed letting creditors and big banks garnish wages.

    So they have been against things to help the middle class, and all they can be for is garnishing wages by big banks. It is quite a pattern. And it is a pattern that strongly suggests that Republicans are hostile to middle class interests.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, we are. Can we shut the **** up about it now? Please?
    It takes some real guts to finally admit this.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No your statement makes no sense because the point is that borrowers should be paying for their loans, not profiting the government billions of dollars.


    so you want them to have free money?

    according to what i just read, current rates on government loans are 4.66% for student loans

    you do understand where those fall historically, right?
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It takes some real guts to finally admit this.
    Lol.....

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It takes some real guts to finally admit this.
    Quite commendable.
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