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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why? Education is a service that people must obtain for it to be provided. Why should the government assist towards those ends?
    A government should want its citizens to be educated and ready to face the modern world, no matter there finances.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Wait, what? Countries like Germany and denmark offer free tuition to students, while our students are crippled in debt with insane prices on text books, etc..
    Shifting the burden is not a solution to anything. Government takeovers are weak minded idiocy that solves nothing.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    A government should want its citizens to be educated and ready to face the modern world, no matter there finances.
    Government should be indifferent on the matter.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Haha, trying to put me on the defense. Your side proposed the bill, justify it. You haven't.
    I can justify the bill easily, look at Tennessee.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Shifting the burden is not a solution to anything. Government takeovers are weak minded idiocy that solves nothing.
    Really? They obviously don't work in other countries with higher education

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Government should be indifferent on the matter.
    Then that is a bad government, in my opinion.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It's free for the student's, and nothing is ever really "free" but it can be brought to the point of accessibility for all.
    All levels of education have been accessible for all for a lot of decades now. And what if we got the federal government out of it entirely and let the free market work there as well? All children in all 50 states had access to tuition free schools from first grade through twelfth grade long before the federal government started meddling. And property taxes were much more reasonable so that more people could afford to live near the local school, and the schools were administered by local school boards, teachers, parents, PTA organizations, and parent booster clubs and we had the best schools in the world. Now with all that infusion of federal government money we are way down on the list in education excellence.

    Colleges and universities were also much more affordable so that a lot of us were able to work and pay for our own college education without any government help at all. Private grants and endowments helped a great deal in providing scholarships for meritorious poorer students and my college gave those of us who needed it opportunity to earn some of our fees and other expenses.

    One of the cruelest hoaxes imposed on the middle class is the progressive notion that if the federal government doesn't do it, it won't get done. And that somehow the money for a 'free' junior college or whatever just materializes out of thin air and doesn't impose additional hardship on an already struggling middle class.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Really? They obviously don't work in other countries with higher education
    A government takeover didn't solve the underlining problem. The creation of a government monopoly does not a solve a problem, but simply covers it up with redistribution schemes.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Then that is a bad government, in my opinion.
    Yes, I imagine it is, and to me a government that uses tax revenue to pay for individual needs and desires is a bad government.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Oh yes, the lack of regulation totally would have helped to get us out of the great depression and help people, damn liberals.
    We're not talking about the great depression. A war got us out of that. There actually was not a lot of regulation after WW II until Johnson came along.

    We are talking about education and the effect of government on education.

    Diversion is another liberal tactic. Lose the battle, change the war.

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