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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Do they have a logical reason?
    Haha, trying to put me on the defense. Your side proposed the bill, justify it. You haven't.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It's free for the student's, and nothing is ever really "free" but it can be brought to the point of accessibility for all.
    Only by making other people pay for it. All you're doing is shifting the burden from the individual that desires to purchase the product to the whole population. Remember when I said your ideology was rooted in slavery and servitude? This is a good example of that.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The government has a duty to make sure that citizens have affordable and easy access to education? That seems reasonable to me, might be one of the reasons my friend in Germany laughs at our current system.
    You're going off topic it seems, nevertheless, tell me how many German air force bases we have in the US.
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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The government has a duty to make sure that citizens have affordable and easy access to education? That seems reasonable to me, might be one of the reasons my friend in Germany laughs at our current system.
    Why? Education is a service that people must obtain for it to be provided. Why should the government assist towards those ends?

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What makes this thread even sadder is that the opposition from republicans in the example was based on procedure, and not necessarily an unwillingness to consider the bill. I am not a fan of republicans, but for god's sake, let's try and be honest, accurate and make decent points, and not just spew over the top stupid rhetoric.
    What is sad is that so called liberals such as Hillary Clinton, are so pathetic and sorry that their policies are, in practical terms, to the right of people like Richard Nixon. What is even sadder is people who are actually full of malice and hate accuse others of spewing over the top stupid rhetoric.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes, you should, I'd like to see your alternative.
    No, you shouldn't. If no one can afford a college education then other solutions to the problem are needed. There is really no point in holding firm to a model that has no way to be offered in a way that people can afford.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're going off topic it seems, nevertheless, tell me how many German air force bases we have in the US.
    That's a moot point, I'm simply saying Germany's education system benefits the students more then our education system and that we need to consider reform, the current system is broken and needs reform.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    But the current system is destructive, the only thing viable to alleviate the problem is government intervention.
    That's generally the liberal answer to everything. Start with something that is working fairly well, regulate until the system destructs, than claim that the only fix is more regulation.

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, you shouldn't. If no one can afford a college education then other solutions to the problem are needed. There is really no point in holding firm to a model that has no way to be offered in a way that people can afford.
    Wait, what? Countries like Germany and denmark offer free tuition to students, while our students are crippled in debt with insane prices on text books, etc..

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    Re: Are Republicans against helping the middle class?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    That's generally the liberal answer to everything. Start with something that is working fairly well, regulate until the system destructs, than claim that the only fix is more regulation.
    Oh yes, the lack of regulation totally would have helped to get us out of the great depression and help people, damn liberals.

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