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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Are you really and honestly that blind to reality???

    If I handed you a cup of coke and a cup of pepsi, and told you to chose just one, would I be safe in assuming you wouldn't prefer sprite, coffee, beer, or water?
    Sprite, Coffee, Beer, and Water are all extremely popular beverages that sell large amounts within the US....indeed, it's very likely that more coffee or beer (Since you label those broadly) sell more in a year than coke.

    It's laughable to compare ANY third party to "sprite", or "dr. pepper" for instance, in a "Coke/Pepsi" description because it's attempting to present a 3rd party as an extremely well known, liked, and enjoyed entity all on it's own. It's not.

    It'd be more like saying you are handed a cup of coke and pepsi, and told you to choose one, that I'd be safe in assuming you wouldn't prefer RC Cola or Big Cola.

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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    It's always been my position that a series of debates ought to be mandatory. Every single candidate on the ballot (it can be limited to those with a minimum popularity) would be required to get on stage at least twice during the election cycle and debate the rest. No softball questions. No scripted answers. Have one debate on domestic policy and one on foreign policy. Have one for vice presidential candidates. Anyone who doesn't show up gets booted off the ballot.
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You are both part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    You'd both prefer to limit the options to two pieces of trash than open things up to more competition and possibly hope for some change.

    Don't worry, you're not alone. You both deserve the government you get.
    But in reality, all you're doing is advocating more piles of trash. Third party candidates aren't any better, just crazier.
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But in reality, all you're doing is advocating more piles of trash. Third party candidates aren't any better, just crazier.
    Maybe. Maybe not. Isn't it possible they're just "crazier" because they're already so hamstrung by the process that you can't really get a serious candidate to even waste their time and money? Even if you were a driver capable of winning a race, would you spend the time and money racing knowing you would never even qualify for the start?
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Absolutely, it seems to me that the mainstream media determines who the candidates are, along with wealth. The system needs to change.

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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not. Isn't it possible they're just "crazier" because they're already so hamstrung by the process that you can't really get a serious candidate to even waste their time and money? Even if you were a driver capable of winning a race, would you spend the time and money racing knowing you would never even qualify for the start?
    Not maybe, definitely. Third parties tend to be very, very similar to one of the big two with a couple of elements blown way out of proportion. Their candidates tend to be extremists. These aren't people who can win the race, these are people still looking for the keys and trying to start the car with their psychic powers.
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If ALL CANDIDATES mean everybody on the ballot for President, that could be a rather large crowd on stage especially once word of this change gets out.

    So how do you get around the normal objection that the vast vast majority of voters have no interest in the little third party candidates and parties and just want to hear the big two - or in rare years possible three?
    If the vast majority of voters have no interest in third parties it is due to the fact most voters do not know they exist.
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    The debates are pathetic.

    They are so rigid and structured as to shed almost no light on candidates.

    You want a debate? Throw all the candidates in a room for at least 3 hours with no moderator, make sure they cannot communicate with their 'people' and have the masses ask them questions via the Internet...a free for all.
    No time limits, no self-serving moderators who are trying to get more face time - asking one stupid question after another and above all; make it long enough and free form enough that the candidates true natures start to show through.

    The debates now are almost a total joke as the candidates spend days practising with their people for them and their 30 second sound bite answers.

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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    If I was a Republican I'd be against giving a higher profile to a third party. My guess is that a viable third party would be a conservative creature and would draw more votes away from the GOP than the Democratic Party.
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    Re: should the rules be changed to make it easier for one or more candidate into the

    I've always been ambivalent about the utility of debates in general. Just because a candidate does well in a debate (or conversely if he or she does poorly) is not an indicator of how well they would perform as President.

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