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Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

Who would you vote for if these ended up being the presidential candidates?

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Cephus said:
Sure they are but the reason the GOP keeps losing is because they are courting a political base that most people hate. Given that we have an effective two-party system and both parties are courting the extremists, what do the rest of us, the people who are more moderate, do? Aren't we allowed to have a candidate who represents us too?
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Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

Cruz won't get the nomination.
 
tres borrachos said:
Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

Cruz won't get the nomination.
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Huntsman. Probably the most moderate? No, he's definitely a moderate. As a moderate I could easily vote for him. But with the current state of the GOP Huntsman has no chance. Too bad.
 
tres borrachos said:
Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

Cruz won't get the nomination.
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I hope not or the GOP is going to lose again. I favored Huntsman too, but the people at the top, the people who make the decisions in the GOP are a bunch of religious asshats who are convinced that America is going to come together and vote for their religious fanatic candidate. These decisions aren't really made by the voting public, they're made by the political elite and it's true of both the Republicans and the Democrats. The #1 point on the GOP agenda is will their candidate appeal to their fundamentalist base. That their fundamentalist base is falling apart in America seems entirely lost on them.
 
Cruz shouldn't even be eligible to be president, he ain't a natural born American. Where are the birthers when you need them?!

That aside, he's a god awful politician and candidate. Sure, that's like every popular GOP choice, but still.

Hell of a lawyer though, smart as a whip in that arena.

As for the poll choices in all, let me just say, this election is gonna suck. I can't pick any of them, to be honest. Sanders is cool on some things, but I'd never vote for him to be my president.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Huntsman. Probably the most moderate? No, he's definitely a moderate. As a moderate I could easily vote for him. But with the current state of the GOP Huntsman has no chance. Too bad.
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Huntsman had no chance in 2012 either. And that's a damn shame. I was one of his volunteers here in New Hampshire. He ran a bad campaign, which is too bad. He would have made a hell of a President.
 
Van Basten said:
Cruz shouldn't even be eligible to be president, he ain't a natural born American.
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Sure he is. You don't have to be born IN America to be a natural born American, he just cannot have immigrated and become an American later. Because his parents were Americans, so was he. If Cruz isn't "natural born American" then neither is John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

That doesn't make Cruz worth voting for though, he's still a religious asshat.
 
Bernie Sanders.. I truly hope he gets more attention.
 
19 months to go before - as ALWAYS in at least the last 50 years - America elects a TERRIBLE POTUS.

19 months to go and this nonsense is starting already?

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Hey...ignorant American masses? You suck at choosing POTUS's. Next time, 95% of you should stay home on election night and let people who have a clue pick the right man/woman.

Hint...NO CHANCE it will be a dem or rep. NONE.
 
Peter King said:
Well, Ted Cruz has announced his bid for presidency. He did this on twitter account and there was a video too.

Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid with Twitter post, video | Fox News

If the vote was to take place now, and the 2 candidates on the board for the main 2 parties were + the rest of the third party possibles:

Ted Cruz (R)

Hillary Clinton (D)

Terry Jones (I)

Zoltan Istvan (transhumanist party)

Jill Stein (Green Party)

Bernie Sanders (I)

Gary Johnson (Libertarian)

Who would you vote for and if you want to, why would you do that?
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I'm a Republican. If it looked as though Cruz might win I'd vote for Clinton to shore up support to prevent a disaster. If it looks like Clinton is going to win in a blowout I'd probably vote for Istvan.
 
Big government, semi-corporate liberalism is preferable to right-wing populism for me. Now, had this been a Warren vs. Cruz match, I would have to spend a bit more time thinking about that little pickle, for both seem to be far too democratic for my liking.
 
Cephus said:
Sure he is. You don't have to be born IN America to be a natural born American, he just cannot have immigrated and become an American later. Because his parents were Americans, so was he. If Cruz isn't "natural born American" then neither is John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

That doesn't make Cruz worth voting for though, he's still a religious asshat.
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McCain was born on a military base, bad example.

I obviously meant any sort of American soil including territories and so on, not just the continental USA, Alaska, and Hawaii. I don't see anything in Cruz' bio that points to this. Feel free to fill me in, as far as I know, he was born in some random Canadian town while his parents were working in the oil business. I'm all ears, well, eyes, on this and will have no problem conceding on this. I don't recall children getting citizenship simply because their parents are American citizens.
 
I'm impressed with the Bernie Sanders/Gary Johnson numbers. A wee little evidence that we need third party participation in our debate process. In fact, at present, it's 30 to 17 against the establishment, woo hoo!
 
This thread has something you will never see in real life...a libertarian candidate getting votes!

 
I probably won't vote in this particular election compared to having voted in the last two (27 yr old American). I don't like Jeb Bush (No thanks @ fat Miami pseudo Liberal Meximerica guy) and I know Hillary won't win and don't want to feel like a fool for having voted for her.

I do not think Hillary can win though and that is why the DNC pulled Obama out of obscurity to run because DNC insiders knew and still know Hillary won't and can't win because America is a very sexist country and suburban moms will vote with their husbands for GOP plus suburban moms can't stand it that Hillary stayed with Bill Clinton while he cheated with so many women over the years.




This Election is going to be the "Revenge of the Really Pissed Off Fat Suburban Middle Class Election" and I honestly want nothing to do with it. I know what's coming. And it isn't a Hillary win.
 
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Come on people where is the love for Zoltan?
 
Montecresto said:
I'm impressed with the Bernie Sanders/Gary Johnson numbers. A wee little evidence that we need third party participation in our debate process. In fact, at present, it's 30 to 17 against the establishment, woo hoo!
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Because we're on an internet forum. When it came time for people to put their cards on the table last election the enthusiasm for third party candidates evaporated.
 
I would vote for Hillary Clinton because I want my vote to count.

But I would prefer to see Warren or Sanders as President.

Warren has less of a chance to win in a general election. Sanders has 0 chance of winning a general election.
So Clinton it is...
 
My dead great great grandmother has a better chance of being elected president than Cruz.
 
I'd hold my nose when I vote, but it would be worth it to keep that lowlife TC as far away from the White House as possible.
 
The only person I am against more than Hillary Clinton is Jeb Bush.
 
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