View Poll Results: Who would you vote for if these ended up being the presidential candidates?

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  • Ted Cruz

    9 16.98%
  • Hillary Clinton

    15 28.30%
  • Terry Jones

    0 0%
  • Zoltan Istvan

    1 1.89%
  • Jill Stein

    2 3.77%
  • Bernie Sanders

    6 11.32%
  • Gary Johnson

    12 22.64%
  • Sorry, but if those are the options I am not going to vote

    4 7.55%
  • I don't intend to vote no matter who runs

    1 1.89%
  • I am not American but my choice would be...........

    3 5.66%
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Thread: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sure they are but the reason the GOP keeps losing is because they are courting a political base that most people hate. Given that we have an effective two-party system and both parties are courting the extremists, what do the rest of us, the people who are more moderate, do? Aren't we allowed to have a candidate who represents us too?
    Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

    Cruz won't get the nomination.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

    Cruz won't get the nomination.
    Huntsman. Probably the most moderate? No, he's definitely a moderate. As a moderate I could easily vote for him. But with the current state of the GOP Huntsman has no chance. Too bad.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Of course we are. You have to support one. I supported Huntsman in 2012, and he was probably the most moderate of the GOP candidates. Not enough moderates supported him.

    Cruz won't get the nomination.
    I hope not or the GOP is going to lose again. I favored Huntsman too, but the people at the top, the people who make the decisions in the GOP are a bunch of religious asshats who are convinced that America is going to come together and vote for their religious fanatic candidate. These decisions aren't really made by the voting public, they're made by the political elite and it's true of both the Republicans and the Democrats. The #1 point on the GOP agenda is will their candidate appeal to their fundamentalist base. That their fundamentalist base is falling apart in America seems entirely lost on them.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Cruz shouldn't even be eligible to be president, he ain't a natural born American. Where are the birthers when you need them?!

    That aside, he's a god awful politician and candidate. Sure, that's like every popular GOP choice, but still.

    Hell of a lawyer though, smart as a whip in that arena.

    As for the poll choices in all, let me just say, this election is gonna suck. I can't pick any of them, to be honest. Sanders is cool on some things, but I'd never vote for him to be my president.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Huntsman. Probably the most moderate? No, he's definitely a moderate. As a moderate I could easily vote for him. But with the current state of the GOP Huntsman has no chance. Too bad.
    Huntsman had no chance in 2012 either. And that's a damn shame. I was one of his volunteers here in New Hampshire. He ran a bad campaign, which is too bad. He would have made a hell of a President.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Cruz shouldn't even be eligible to be president, he ain't a natural born American.
    Sure he is. You don't have to be born IN America to be a natural born American, he just cannot have immigrated and become an American later. Because his parents were Americans, so was he. If Cruz isn't "natural born American" then neither is John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

    That doesn't make Cruz worth voting for though, he's still a religious asshat.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    How did Romney running to the right work out in 2012?
    You mean "How did Romney pretending to be on the right work out in 2012"?
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Bernie Sanders.. I truly hope he gets more attention.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    19 months to go before - as ALWAYS in at least the last 50 years - America elects a TERRIBLE POTUS.

    19 months to go and this nonsense is starting already?



    Hey...ignorant American masses? You suck at choosing POTUS's. Next time, 95% of you should stay home on election night and let people who have a clue pick the right man/woman.

    Hint...NO CHANCE it will be a dem or rep. NONE.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, Ted Cruz has announced his bid for presidency. He did this on twitter account and there was a video too.

    Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid with Twitter post, video | Fox News

    If the vote was to take place now, and the 2 candidates on the board for the main 2 parties were + the rest of the third party possibles:

    Ted Cruz (R)

    Hillary Clinton (D)

    Terry Jones (I)

    Zoltan Istvan (transhumanist party)

    Jill Stein (Green Party)

    Bernie Sanders (I)

    Gary Johnson (Libertarian)

    Who would you vote for and if you want to, why would you do that?
    I'm a Republican. If it looked as though Cruz might win I'd vote for Clinton to shore up support to prevent a disaster. If it looks like Clinton is going to win in a blowout I'd probably vote for Istvan.

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