View Poll Results: Who would you vote for if these ended up being the presidential candidates?

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  • Ted Cruz

    9 16.98%
  • Hillary Clinton

    15 28.30%
  • Terry Jones

    0 0%
  • Zoltan Istvan

    1 1.89%
  • Jill Stein

    2 3.77%
  • Bernie Sanders

    6 11.32%
  • Gary Johnson

    12 22.64%
  • Sorry, but if those are the options I am not going to vote

    4 7.55%
  • I don't intend to vote no matter who runs

    1 1.89%
  • I am not American but my choice would be...........

    3 5.66%
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Thread: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    How did Romney running to the right work out in 2012?

    After the loss in 2012 the GOP spent millions on studies from pollsters, universities, etc. trying to figure how Obama, a man with waning support and in a weak economy easily defeated Romney. As far as I know all the studies I saw said the same thing. The moderate Romney ran too far to the right and that turned off the moderate voters, especially the younger voters.

    I know Fox, and Limbaugh, Levin, and others are all saying the studies were wrong, and the GOP needs to move even further to the right. So then form your own party, and GTFO of the GOP. They can get some money, they got many conservative pundits who would give them some publicity, and they have households names like Palin and Cruz.

    Get out. Form a far right 3rd party, especially on social issues, and see how 'it's our way or the highway', and you need to be 100% ideologically pure agenda works out for you.
    It didn't work out too badly. In a very "centrist" country, almost 61 million people voted for Mitt Romney. For comparison, almost 66 million people voted for Barack Obama. Just because Romney didn't win doesn't mean that the GOP's next candidate shouldn't be somewhat to the right. Romney was hardly any hardcore right winger's ideal candidate for a lot of reasons. That's what made him very appealing to me.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, Ted Cruz has announced his bid for presidency. He did this on twitter account and there was a video too.

    Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid with Twitter post, video | Fox News

    If the vote was to take place now, and the 2 candidates on the board for the main 2 parties were + the rest of the third party possibles:

    Ted Cruz (R)

    Hillary Clinton (D)

    Terry Jones (I)

    Zoltan Istvan (transhumanist party)

    Jill Stein (Green Party)

    Bernie Sanders (I)

    Gary Johnson (Libertarian)

    Who would you vote for and if you want to, why would you do that?
    Cruz will never last - his tinny, strained, and odd voice will not command respect that is required.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, Ted Cruz has announced his bid for presidency. He did this on twitter account and there was a video too.

    Sen. Ted Cruz announces presidential bid with Twitter post, video | Fox News

    If the vote was to take place now, and the 2 candidates on the board for the main 2 parties were + the rest of the third party possibles:

    Ted Cruz (R)

    Hillary Clinton (D)

    Terry Jones (I)

    Zoltan Istvan (transhumanist party)

    Jill Stein (Green Party)

    Bernie Sanders (I)

    Gary Johnson (Libertarian)

    Who would you vote for and if you want to, why would you do that?
    Ted Cruz. Enough of Killary.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Cruz will never last - his tinny, strained, and odd voice will not command respect that is required.
    And I doubt he will carry favor with the moderates that usually decide elections. Especially in states who are a toss up.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Has anyone done a complete and factual Obama-Cruz side by side comparison? Just saying, anything is possible if the potential prince elect has the right backing.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Has anyone done a complete and factual Obama-Cruz side by side comparison? Just saying, anything is possible if the potential prince elect has the right backing.
    Not needed, no matter what the "prince" thinks he cannot run in 2016. They would still have to side-step the 22nd Amendment, not an easy task.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Not needed, no matter what the "prince" thinks he cannot run in 2016. They would still have to side-step the 22nd Amendment, not an easy task.
    Aside from that, please.

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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    How did Romney running to the right work out in 2012?

    After the loss in 2012 the GOP spent millions on studies from pollsters, universities, etc. trying to figure how Obama, a man with waning support and in a weak economy easily defeated Romney. As far as I know all the studies I saw said the same thing. The moderate Romney ran too far to the right and that turned off the moderate voters, especially the younger voters.

    I know Fox, and Limbaugh, Levin, and others are all saying the studies were wrong, and the GOP needs to move even further to the right. So then form your own party, and GTFO of the GOP. They can get some money, they got many conservative pundits who would give them some publicity, and they have households names like Palin and Cruz.

    Get out. Form a far right 3rd party, especially on social issues, and see how 'it's our way or the highway', and you need to be 100% ideologically pure agenda works out for you.
    And I'm so sure you read every one of those studies. He didn't run all that conservative either because that's not who he is. Dont' kid yourself.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    GOP's next candidate shouldn't be somewhat to the right.
    The TP isn't 'somewhat to the right'. The TP is far to the right. Cruz announced this morning at Liberty University. You think there's a reason for that? Obviously his campaign will not be 'somewhat to the right'. He's going all out for the social conservatives and culture conservatives vote. He should take his message, and his agenda and get out out of the GOP with all the others who believe in his far right social conservative, religious right message.
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    Re: Round 1. Ted "Tea Party Supported" Cruz vs. Hillary "has to run" Clinton

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I'm surprised we don't have Zoltan Barry by now.

    Zoltán is a Hungarian masculine given name. It originates from the Old Turkish word soltan, sultan, meaning strong authority or rulership, which was borrowed from the Arabic sultan, and derived from an Arabic verb Sultah meaning authority or power. In modern times Zoltan and Sultan are used to mean king. Zoltan was one of the first kings of Hungary in the early 900s AD.

    Zoltán - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    After knowing a Zorko for 3 years I finally asked him his real name.
    He said Zorko.
    I said, No Your real name not you nick name.
    He said Zorko.
    I said, No I dont think you understand. What name did youir parents give you at birth?
    He said Zorko
    I said No your actual name the one on your birth certificate.
    He pulled out his wallet and showed me his drivers liscence.
    His actual name is
    Zorko Von Plankenstein.
    Yup just two letters off from being the most epic name ever!

    Back to Zoltan
    He should win because ALL HAIL ZOLTAN! just sounds better than Hello Mr President.
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