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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Compare that with this:

    In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
    If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

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    WOW! Back as far as 1975 that was acknowledged. Now it seems we are getting there, and what is even more disturbing is that people don't seem to be the least bit concerned. One of these days, it will get so bad that people will have to go hide in the jungles like animals to escape very cruel, technically sophisticated tyrants.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    WOW! Back as far as 1975 that was acknowledged. Now it seems we are getting there, and what is even more disturbing is that people don't seem to be the least bit concerned. One of these days, it will get so bad that people will have to go hide in the jungles like animals to escape very cruel, technically sophisticated tyrants.
    Yes, I agree, that's the problem. Just look at the numbers of people that are indifferent to this. Hey, if you're not misbehaving, you have nothing to fear from the surveillance state. I don't get people, really, I truly don't.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, I agree, that's the problem. Just look at the numbers of people that are indifferent to this. Hey, if you're not misbehaving, you have nothing to fear from the surveillance state. I don't get people, really, I truly don't.
    Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to have his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
    Are you kidding me. A fast food chain put that in writing!!!!
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
    I don't recall it being a fast food chain, but I remember hearing about that incident.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Again, this is glaring



    Damn! I hope that guy never makes it to the Supreme Court. Imagine Scalia, Thomas, and Sunstein. WOW!!!!
    he cannot get by a GOP senate. he's seen as a far left whacko by the Federalist society



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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Part of it is that people are scared. It used to be a guy could reasonably expect to has his same job until he retired. Things are just not like that anymore. People must constantly work under the threat of being unemployed, because, among other things, many jobs have been outsourced overseas. As such, they are to scared to speak out or question things. I can't remember exactly what fast food chain it was, but a few years ago it sent out a notice to employees threatening that if the voted for a specific candidate, they would likely lose their jobs. That's the type of thing people must contend with now.
    Good point. Speaking up, making one innocent comment, complimenting the wrong woman is only the beginning. Questioning the boss and all bets are off. While many moan about unions, they serve at least as some sort of support. But I digress again, my apologies.
    What worries me is that the government is one of the instigators with their mingling into every part of our lives, telling us what to do or not to do, what to eat or drink, and the latest might be how long we are to shower in a hotel.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you kidding me. A fast food chain put that in writing!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't recall it being a fast food chain, but I remember hearing about that incident.
    Well, there were a couple of incidents, and I probably merged them in my memory, but here is one

    David Siegel is the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, a huge national timeshare company and one of the largest resort developers in the world. In 2007 he was a billionaire, although he may be only a hundred-millionaire now. He and his wife Jackie were the subjects of the recent documentary "The Queen of Versailles," about their ongoing quest to build the largest house in America, a 90,000 square foot monument to excess. And yesterday, David Siegel sent an email to all of his thousands of employees, in which he—in a veiled way—insinuated that they would be fired of Barack Obama is reelected.
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    He didn't directly say it, but he hinted at it.

    The CEO Who Built Himself America's Largest House Just Threatened to Fire His Employees if Obama's Elected

    Now this happened to some employees at a McDonalds

    A handful of McDonald's employees in northeastern Ohio received handbills in their most recent paychecks suggesting they vote for three Republican candidates.

    "If the right people are elected we will be able to continue with raises and benefits at or above our present levels," the insert said. "If others are elected we will not."

    The fast food chain's corporate headquarters in Oak Brook, Ill., distanced itself from the action by Canton franchisee Paul Siegfried, saying it was not reflective of the company's position.
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    Ohio McDonald's Gives Voting Advice in Paychecks - CBS News

    Here's an article about it

    Employers increasingly telling employees workers how to vote

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't recall it being a fast food chain, but I remember hearing about that incident.
    Was it Papa John's threatening job losses if Obama won another election?

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Was it Papa John's threatening job losses if Obama won another election?
    Eew, I don't like their pizza either.
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