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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    15 votes in and no trolls voting yes yet.
    What are the odds that we will have one before it gets to 25? And who can I place my bets with?
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Neither do I. And remember, this is from a guy who is a close advisor to the so called "change we can believe in" President. I really think Obama needs to come forward and make some sort of statement on how he feels about this type of thinking. Honestly, until today, I had no idea this is actually the type of thinking that his advisors engage in. Very, very disturbing.
    Of course he does. Look at Sharpton and Gruber. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he'd invite MalcolmX, were he still around. But I suppose we all do that, surrounding ourselves with like minded people
    Not to change the topic, but it goes right along the lines of
    I got a pen and will use it. To hell with the constitution.
    or
    How about making voting mandatory.
    Yes, he may have just been babbling to distract from other issues, but he does make me very suspicious, which brings me right back to conspiracy.
    He does what he wants, we have seen that.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Of course he does. Look at Sharpton and Gruber. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he'd invite MalcolmX, were he still around. But I suppose we all do that, surrounding ourselves with like minded people
    Not to change the topic, but it goes right along the lines of
    I got a pen and will use it. To hell with the constitution.
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    How about making voting mandatory.
    Yes, he may have just been babbling to distract from other issues, but he does make me very suspicious, which brings me right back to conspiracy.
    He does what he wants, we have seen that.
    Indeed, and except for the blindness of partisans, we saw it with Bush as well. (Not suggesting that of you, I don't know much of your positions.)

    Partisans are more dangerous than the government can potentially be, because they enable wrong doing.

    A non-partisan 11-member ABA task force found that since the founding of the American Republic 230 years ago, 42 previous presidents issued "signing statements" challenging parts or all of 600 laws.
    But since 2001 when Bush the Junior took office, the ABA estimates he's issued "signing statements" to ignore all or part of 800 laws, including rejecting Sen. John McCain's legislation banning the use of torture of war detainees.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    15 votes in and no trolls voting yes yet.
    What are the odds that we will have one before it gets to 25? And who can I place my bets with?
    Not sure what you mean. Is it not possible that there could be someone who thinks that the government should ban that form of expression, and they not be a "troll"?
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Granted, there are a lot of crackpot conspiracy theories out there, but I could see the government purposely suppressing speech it doesn't like by simply proclaiming it a conspiracy theory.

    This post would probably qualify.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not sure what you mean. Is it not possible that there could be someone who thinks that the government should ban that form of expression, and they not be a "troll"?
    No it is not
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    No it is not
    Well gee, thanks. I was hoping for more an explanation. Guess I'll settle for nothing.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's some background on Cass Sunstein



    In addition, Mr Sunstein has been under consideration by the Obama administration as a possible Supreme Court Justice.

    Sunstein co-authored a book that suggested the following



    Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Amazing! Tax people who put forward conspiracy theories!

    Any rate, that aside, what do you think? Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?


    Oh, it is tempting to put a lid on all the stupidity that flows.


    But, 1st Amendment.


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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well gee, thanks. I was hoping for more an explanation. Guess I'll settle for nothing.
    Americais a free country with free speech, you cannot ban speech just because it is silly.
    Anyone who suggests doing so is either mentally retarded to the point of being unable to figure out how to use a computer (thus they wouldnt be able to post it) or they are trolling.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The fact is that what you posted was simply not true. You said that



    That is simply not the case. What he does is list a number of the actions that the government might take, including banning conspiracy theorizing, and discusses what he thinks the results might be. With regards to banning conspiracy theorizing, although he does say it MIGHT be self defeating, he clearly says the he can imagine a scenario where it becomes thinkable.
    Oooh look!! Another example of you quoting something out of context and claiming it supports your dishonest claims while leaving out the sentences the immediately follow because they prove your claim is a lie
    The most direct response to a dangerous
    conspiracy theories is censorship. That response is unavailable in an open society,
    because it is inconsistent with principles of freedom of expression. We could imagine
    circumstances in which a conspiracy theory became so pervasive, and so dangerous, that
    censorship would be thinkable. But in an open society, the need for censorship would be
    correspondingly reduced. In any case censorship may well turn out to be self-defeating.
    The effort to censor the theory might well be taken as evidence that the theory is true, and
    censorship of speech is notoriously difficult
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