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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Hmmm, a republican conspiracy to undermine a Presidents negotiations with a foriegn nation. Why does that sound familiar?
    I know it, almost amazing.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Here's some background on Cass Sunstein



    In addition, Mr Sunstein has been under consideration by the Obama administration as a possible Supreme Court Justice.

    Sunstein co-authored a book that suggested the following



    Cass Sunstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Amazing! Tax people who put forward conspiracy theories!

    Any rate, that aside, what do you think? Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?
    Idiotic. Transparency cures all conspiracy theories.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Oh really? Here's the one that you conveniently neglected to post, or perhaps did not read
    We could imagine circumstances in which a conspiracy theory became so pervasive, and so dangerous, that censorship would be thinkable.
    And that's Why Cass Sunstien has no business being considered for the bench of any court.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the govt was led by an authoritarian.
    Its not?
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    We need to hang him..And all others like him.
    Definitely need to take the wind out of his sails.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    And that's Why Cass Sunstien has no business being considered for the bench of any court.
    Absolutely!

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Absolutely!

    The actual suggestions from the paper in question:

    Here we suggest two concrete ideas for government officials attempting to fashion a response to such theories.

    First, responding to more rather than fewer conspiracy theories has a kind of synergy benefit: it reduces the legitimating effect of responding to any one of them, because it dilutes the contrast with unrebutted theories.

    Second, we suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of those who subscribe to such theories. They do so by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity.







    “The hardcore conspiracy theorists are totally committed. They’d have to repudiate much of their life identity in order not to accept some of that stuff.
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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The actual suggestions from the paper in question:

    Here we suggest two concrete ideas for government officials attempting to fashion a response to such theories.

    First, responding to more rather than fewer conspiracy theories has a kind of synergy benefit: it reduces the legitimating effect of responding to any one of them, because it dilutes the contrast with unrebutted theories.

    Second, we suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of those who subscribe to such theories. They do so by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity.
    I don't dispute that. What I am talking about is this:

    We could imagine circumstances in which a conspiracy theory became so pervasive, and so dangerous, that censorship would be thinkable.
    Here Sunstein clearly expresses the notion that he can conceive of a scenario where the government might indeed feel compelled to consider a ban. You can try to run interference for Sunstein if you want, but there is no place for him to hide. It is there in black and white.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You can try to run interference for Sunstein if you want...
    I am in on The Conspiracy too now?
    Sweet!

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    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Should the government ban conspiracy theorizing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I am in on The Conspiracy too now?
    Sweet!

    I am They.
    I don't know what you are. Actually you may be. But whatever you are, you are certainly running interference for Sunstein. There is no doubt, he clearly said he can conceive of a scenario in which the government might feel compelled to ban CT. No doubt about it. You can try to smudge over that if you want, but it's not going to work.

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