View Poll Results: What is the best example of fair punishment for a week?

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  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose all toys.

    21 84.00%
  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 1 toy.

    2 8.00%
  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 2 toys.

    1 4.00%
  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 50% of their toys.

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Thread: "Fair" punishment

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    I never considered this a complex question until recently. I wanted to put it into generic terms and see what kind of responses I got but do it in terms that was a little less loaded. This is largely a social science question regarding concepts like surplus, deprivation, etc.

    This is simply an opinion poll. The boys are the same in each scenario, and you can assume that they misbehaved in the same manner. The number of toys never change. The only thing that changes is the cost of punishment. Choose the one you feel treats both boys with the same degree of punishment and maybe explain why.
    I sense that you're trying to engineer a desired response by being vague, but you're being too vague to the point that it's not even a question.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I know but I need to learn what exactly caused them to be punished.did they stop studying their lessons ? did they steal something from another person's bag ? did they insist on eating chocolate instead of brocoli? you see the type of punishment may change according to the context especially when these are kids.its not that simple if its about kids
    I'm pretty sure the question revolves around the wealthy paying the same amount for violations such as speeding.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it seems stupidier than my polls
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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Since Tommy has 4 toys and Timmy only has 2 then the only fair thing would be to have Tommy give Timmy one of his toys so that both have 3. In that way Tommy will feel the sting of the righteous hand of justice and Timmy will be less inclined to misbehave because he is now on the same socioeconomic level as Tommy.

    While it would appear at first glance that taking all toys away from both boys would achieve the same result this would be false. To exercise that option would be to ignore the social benefits of "restorative justice".

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh ok, this is progressive fine question. The answer to that is no.
    It's not that at all. If you prefer, you can answer as which punishment is most effective.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. Can you not see the poll question?
    The poll question deals with sentencing for an infraction, I picked option #2 because it is the least severe. If a fine, penalty or sentence is to be equal or "fair" then it may not vary based on anything except the nature of the offense, and possibly one's prior record of offenses. The concept of taking a percentage of one's assets is not fair because that implies that jaywalking is not equally serious based on one's wealth. The example should have included a child with 100 toys and a child with no toys - which makes it impossible to punish the child with no toys and far less likely to see option #1 as fair.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    It's not that at all. If you prefer, you can answer as which punishment is most effective.
    No? The way you're asking the question tells me you're hiding something and I want to know what it is.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Since Tommy has 4 toys and Timmy only has 2 then the only fair thing would be to have Tommy give Timmy one of his toys so that both have 3. In that way Tommy will feel the sting of the righteous hand of justice and Timmy will be less inclined to misbehave because he is now on the same socioeconomic level as Tommy.

    While it would appear at first glance that taking all toys away from both boys would achieve the same result this would be false. To exercise that option would be to ignore the social benefits of "restorative justice".
    Seriously, why are you so afraid to answer a question about two children and some toys? Giving timmy another toy was not a given option. Please choose from the choices given.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No? The way you're asking the question tells me you're hiding something and I want to know what it is.
    I'm hiding something by asking your opinion?

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Seriously, why are you so afraid to answer a question about two children and some toys? Giving timmy another toy was not a given option. Please choose from the choices given.
    Because more than likely whatever it is you're hiding will be sprung on whoever tries to answer your question.

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