View Poll Results: What is the best example of fair punishment for a week?

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  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose all toys.

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  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 1 toy.

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  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 2 toys.

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  • Timmy has 2 toys, Tommy has 4 toys. Both boys loose 50% of their toys.

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Thread: "Fair" punishment

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Huh?

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I see but cant understand it
    Sorry, I've elaborated.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Sorry, I've elaborated.
    Oh ok, this is progressive fine question. The answer to that is no.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    I never considered this a complex question until recently. I wanted to put it into generic terms and see what kind of responses I got but do it in terms that was a little less loaded.
    I think I know where this is coming from and from what we have seen a punishment is only "fair" when it only impacts wealthy white people. Any punishment that negatively impacts a poor person, a person of color, or a person of a gender other than male is, by its very nature, unfair.

    For example, a kid shoots a couple of people and they rough him up a little in the process of capturing him. That kid is the victim of police brutality if he's black and a simple scumbucket if he's white.

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    People of financial means must have penalties assessed based on their ability to pay. It's only fair, for example, that someone doing 37 in a 35mph zone who makes $250k/yr be fined $30,000 while someone else doing 75 in a 35mph zone who only makes $25k/yr be assessed $1.35. You have to remember, it isn't the infraction that we're punishing, it's the theft of labor and opportunity that the wealthy impose on the poor that must be atoned for.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Nothing complex about it. This has no relationship to adults. If the children are to deprived of toys, then they are deprived of toys. The purpose in your description is "punishment" - not an exercise in "fairness," capitalism or socialism. It is not a social question at all, it is a parenting question and they're children.
    I'm not asking about capitalism or socialism. What made you pick the answer you did?

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    I never considered this a complex question until recently. I wanted to put it into generic terms and see what kind of responses I got but do it in terms that was a little less loaded. This is largely a social science question regarding concepts like surplus, deprivation, etc.

    This is simply an opinion poll. The boys are the same in each scenario, and you can assume that they misbehaved in the same manner. The number of toys never change. The only thing that changes is the cost of punishment. Choose the one you feel treats both boys with the same degree of punishment and maybe explain why.
    it depends on the situation.what did they do ?
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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I think I know where this is coming from and from what we have seen a punishment is only "fair" when it only impacts wealthy white people.

    I don't care about any of this right now. I'm interested in one particular facet, particularly the severity relative to the punishee. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it depends on the situation.what did they do ?
    The exact same thing. That is all that I'll say.

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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    The exact same thing. That is all that I'll say.
    I know but I need to learn what exactly caused them to be punished.did they stop studying their lessons ? did they steal something from another person's bag ? did they insist on eating chocolate instead of brocoli? you see the type of punishment may change according to the context especially when these are kids.its not that simple if its about kids
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    Re: "Fair" punishment

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. Can you not see the poll question?
    Aha. There was no poll up when I first viewed your post.

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