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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    The fact of the matter is ... 190 nations have agreed on an international mechanism (NPT) regarding nuclear weapons, nuclear research, technology transfer, and proliferation. The "rights" and responsibilities of each signatory nation regarding the aforementioned are articulated in the document Preamble and its XI Articles.

    Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Same stance as I have Iran or anyone else.

    From a societal stand point, yes we have a "right" to a nuclear weapon because our treaties with regards to the world governing bodies allows for us to have it. Those who aren't covered by those treaties don't, and those who that treaty covers but doesn't allow to have them don't.

    From an actual natural right stand point, no country has a "right" to a nuclear weapon, in large part because countries don't have "natural rights". Each country simply should be acting in it's best interest, the same as every other country. When those interests come into conflict then ultimatel one country is likely going to win out.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    From a legal standpoint, there doesn't seem to be anything prohibiting the US (or pretty much any other nation) having nuclear weapons.

    I think an more interesting question is whether there could ever be a viable situation where it would be legally and morally acceptable to actually use them?
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Be patient.
    That's not an answer, it's a cowardly evasion.

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    It's a moot point now. We have them, right or not.


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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    That's not an answer, it's a cowardly evasion.
    Cowardly evasion? Not if you think about what's going on right now.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    No ?
    Six say no , why .. Todays reading ..
    Maybe into the future, a century or so, only the UN will have nukes .. in another century, they will rust into uselessness .. after science and religion work together and Islam is a thing of the past.

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Cowardly evasion? Not if you think about what's going on right now.
    Which suggests you do think there is a viable situation where it would be legally and morally acceptable for the USA use it's nuclear weapons but weren't willing to actually say so because you know you'd be challenged to defend that opinion. Hence cowardly.

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Which suggests you do think there is a viable situation where it would be legally and morally acceptable for the USA use it's nuclear weapons but weren't willing to actually say so because you know you'd be challenged to defend that opinion. Hence cowardly.
    Saying there could never be such a situation for us (or anyone else) is cowardly by it's nihilism.
    Is that your position?
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Saying there could never be such a situation for us (or anyone else) is cowardly by it's nihilism.
    Is that your position?
    I personally can't conceive of such a situation but I'm open to answers. I do believe that people who support the idea of us having nuclear weapons have a responsibility to establish the kind of situations they'd see them being used.

    I don't see how my position is nihilism - I'm putting value on things like human life and moral principles. If anything supporting the use of nuclear weapons is closer to nihilistic since mutually assured destruction does would indeed render everything pretty meaningless.

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