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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Hell yes we should have nukes, and not only that, we should be the only ones. And we should continue work to see to it that the least amount of countries have them. All this fairness talk is pure bull****, and liable to get us killed. I'm not afraid to say that I don't care if any other country has a single bullet, as long as we do.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hell yes we should have nukes, and not only that, we should be the only ones. And we should continue work to see to it that the least amount of countries have them. All this fairness talk is pure bull****, and liable to get us killed. I'm not afraid to say that I don't care if any other country has a single bullet, as long as we do.
    USA can bomb me one day ?
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    USA can bomb me one day ?
    We just might if you don't behave.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We just might if you don't behave.
    okay I will give myself up ,man .but lets imagine what would happen if USA was obtained by the evil islamists one day .they would bomb all of us .thats why such weapons are dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    okay I will give myself up ,man .but lets imagine what would happen if USA was obtained by the evil islamists one day .they would bomb all of us .thats why such weapons are dangerous.
    All us Americans would move in to Mosques.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    All us Americans would move in to Mosques.
    bad news for you.isis bombs many mosques
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    bad news for you.isis bombs many mosques
    They should be beheaded for that.
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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    I personally can't conceive of such a situation but I'm open to answers. I do believe that people who support the idea of us having nuclear weapons have a responsibility to establish the kind of situations they'd see them being used.

    I don't see how my position is nihilism - I'm putting value on things like human life and moral principles. If anything supporting the use of nuclear weapons is closer to nihilistic since mutually assured destruction does would indeed render everything pretty meaningless.
    It ain't mutually assured destruction if Party A is stopping Party B from getting a nuke because Party A doesn't want to be obliterated by Party B who doesn't have that nuke yet.
    But it wouldn't have to come to that if Party C was serious about stopping Party B from getting that nuke.
    And while a nuke isn't the only way to stop Party B, getting foolishly screwed over in a deal is definitely not an acceptable alternative.

    Besides, using a tactical nuke doesn't mean a mushroom cloud but it does tend to leave a memory.
    Better never than late.

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    It ain't mutually assured destruction if Party A is stopping Party B from getting a nuke because Party A doesn't want to be obliterated by Party B who doesn't have that nuke yet.
    Are you proposing that as a situation where it would be morally and legally acceptable to use nuclear weapons? It needs the details filling out a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Besides, using a tactical nuke doesn't mean a mushroom cloud but it does tend to leave a memory.
    Tactical weapons would generally be used on a battle field. Are you also proposing a situation on the basis of an established conflict or a situation involving an undeclared attack against a sovereign state?

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    Re: Does USA have the right to have atomic bombs ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Are you proposing that as a situation where it would be morally and legally acceptable to use nuclear weapons? It needs the details filling out a little.

    Tactical weapons would generally be used on a battle field. Are you also proposing a situation on the basis of an established conflict or a situation involving an undeclared attack against a sovereign state?
    What do you think I was talking about?
    And tactical weapons are used, for example, against a hardened, reinforced target.
    Something like, for example, an underground nuclear centrifuge site.
    Better never than late.

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