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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your partner has to "earn" your sex. If so, I find that hilarity.
    I don't. My wife expects me to earn it just as I expect her to earn it. Its about mutual respect in my book. If my wife says "no" I sure as heck am not going to force myself on her because I think I deserve it or because I expect her to put out. Her body is hers, not mine and my body is mine, not hers.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Fear of confronting trials in their life or repercussions or responsibility?

    I think suicide is more of a selfish act than anything.
    No it is not.
    Have you ever known someone in the depths of a mental illness.?
    Sat and talked with them?
    Known any that have taken their lives due to the hell they were in mentally?
    I have.
    Thinking it is selfish or a cowards way out, well clearly this is a subject where some should educate and reevaluate their self righteous judgements.
    Yeah, last line is rude.
    But my opinion is based upon what I have seen and what some others tried to live thru, they did not make that trip back from hell.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't. My wife expects me to earn it just as I expect her to earn it. Its about mutual respect in my book. If my wife says "no" I sure as heck am not going to force myself on her because I think I deserve it or because I expect her to put out. Her body is hers, not mine and my body is mine, not hers.
    Oh Come on Kal, I get all that, who doesn't? That's just common respect and love. "Earn" lol, so do you have a score card, perhaps you use the gold star system, what's the jackpot. I shared this with my wife and the woman in our office, and they unanimously laughed. Of course they all wish to be respected and not forced upon, but then that goes without saying, they just laughed at the notion of earned as I have.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh Come on Kal, I get all that, who doesn't? That's just common respect and love. "Earn" lol, so do you have a score card, perhaps you use the gold star system, what's the jackpot. I shared this with my wife and the woman in our office, and they unanimously laughed. Of course they all wish to be respected and not forced upon, but then that goes without saying, they just laughed at the notion of earned as I have.
    Perhaps its just the word "earned" that you all are having trouble with. There are many ways to earn such. The simplest being simply showing your love in the smallest of ways. Say, a caress across the cheek. A look. etc etc. I do everything I can to earn my wife's love every single day. Even though I know I already have it. I know that I can also lose it.

    Anyways, this is getting a bit off topic. Lets end with this shall we?
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    I don't see suicide as a cowardly act but in many cases it could be viewed as a selfish act.
    I've never felt that desperate or hopeless to want to take my life and never will. I think faith has a lot to do with that one which in itself gives one hope.

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Please read my sig and apply appropriately.
    well if you were speaking in absolutes then you are wrong.

    Not every theist who commits suicide believes in eternal damnation. So the notion that theist are brave and those who kill themselves with the understanding that there is only oblivion after death are cowards, for whatever personal arbitrary reason you have deemed, remains unfounded.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That was uncalled for.
    like everything else he says

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I've seen enough on how suicides destroy families and loved ones... it's a very selfish act to take the easy way out. The circumstances... obviously matter though... but I would say most suicides are selfish...
    funny cause it's often the "loved ones" who drive them to suicide

    as if it's not selfish either to expect someone to continue suffering for one's own benefit

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I do fear death... but do people not have a responsibility to others they coexist with? Friends and family and children?
    children yes, others not so much

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Circumstances dictate the response. A man like Himmler deserves the coward label, whereas, say, the increasing number of Native American young people committing suicide absolutely do not deserve that label. In general the perception should be that it is tragic rather than cowardice.

    Furthermore, the attempt to frame it as selfish (in the pejorative sense) is both unhelpful and ends up encouraging the continued silence of those who are at-risk of suicidal behavior. As I have said many times since I was a pre-teen (being myself a person who attempted suicide before my teen years), that I was indeed overwhelmingly focused on my own needs. I was also convinced that those around me either did not feel the same love about me that I needed or that they would have been better off without me. When discussing someone that going through a mental health crisis, I very much like to remind people that of course they are focused on themselves. They are at the point where they are having difficulty coping with their own existence. What do you expect of them at that point? Complete selflessness? Good grief! There is something wrong going on with their perception of self and there may be many things wrong going on in their lives. You don't fault that person for being so focused on their own needs, because they should be. Instead, you focus on what you can do to help that person through what is going on in their lives and try to get them help.
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