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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    There are very few circumstances where suicide is cowardly. I.e killing yourself because you don't want to face the people you have screwed over through deceit and manipulation for your own gain. Killing yourself in this case would be a cowardly way of dealing with the wrongs you committed.

    I think Hitler's ( Godwin's Law Ding Ding Ding) suicide was a cowards way out - he couldn't face the music.

    Aside from that, whether or not it is right or wrong, suicide takes bravery to jump into that great unknown knowing you will never come back.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Cowardice is allowing fear to prevent you from doing the right thing.

    Suicide is only cowardly when you have obligations it prevents you from carrying out. Nobody is obligated to live for life's sake alone.

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    A better topic would be is it ever cowardly or selfish to *not* suicide

    Since attempts usually fail and are often quite painfully, it must take some amount of courage
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Aside from that, whether or not it is right or wrong, suicide takes bravery to jump into that great unknown knowing you will never come back.
    I don't think it takes any bravery at all if you believe that there is no heaven/hell but instead simply oblivion. Oblivion means that there is no feeling. No punishment. No nothing. That's not bravery. It's simply an escape which is what cowards want. (note: this is ONLY talking about those that do commit suicide for no "valid" reason.)

    I'd be more inclined to believe in the "bravery" bit if they were religious and a part of a religion that forbids suicide. At least then they are "risking" going to hell or whatever equivalent their religion holds.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    People who commit suicide, clearly have issues. Can you provide an example when it is cowardly?
    This is 100% wrong. I know somebody (a friend I knew since I was 12) who had been fighting cancer (lung) for 4 years. Did it all to try and fight it and was given word he'd die in 6 months. He didn't want to die in a hospital or at home in hospice. He asked/wanted to do have one last hurrah so his family went on a 15 day trip around the world to places he wanted to see (I paid for it all, it was least I could do).. He want to go and see Giza, Paris, the Alps, and watch the sunset in the Ring of Kerry and at the end of last day.. watching the sunset he took his life with his family by his side by overdosing on morphine. It was quiet and as he planned his death. He didn't want to suffer and he didn't want the excess medical bills to cripple his family. So it was quiet brave of him. He knew how many days he had left and didn't get cold feet.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    In your honest opinion, do you believe suicide to be a cowardly act?

    Context may be allowed (for those who wish to pick sometimes).

    EDIT

    *fail* forgot to add poll...

    DOUBLE EDIT

    poll is in.
    It's not a matter of bravery pro or con.

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I personally believe anyone that commits suicide is insane.
    In that case.. I respectfully wish you a situation in which you finally realize that death is better then pain.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    There have been accounts of a spouse committing suicide after their long term partner has died and really can't call them coward.

    Then there are people out there 100 pounds overweight puffing on a cig who are doing a slow suicide , are they cowards?
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    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    This is 100% wrong. I know somebody (a friend I knew since I was 12) who had been fighting cancer (lung) for 4 years. Did it all to try and fight it and was given word he'd die in 6 months. He didn't want to die in a hospital or at home in hospice. He asked/wanted to do have one last hurrah so his family went on a 15 day trip around the world to places he wanted to see (I paid for it all, it was least I could do).. He want to go and see Giza, Paris, the Alps, and watch the sunset in the Ring of Kerry and at the end of last day.. watching the sunset he took his life with his family by his side by overdosing on morphine. It was quiet and as he planned his death. He didn't want to suffer and he didn't want the excess medical bills to cripple his family. So it was quiet brave of him. He knew how many days he had left and didn't get cold feet.
    Something like this is not cowardly imo.
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    Re: Is suicide cowardly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't think it takes any bravery at all if you believe that there is no heaven/hell but instead simply oblivion. Oblivion means that there is no feeling. No punishment. No nothing. That's not bravery. It's simply an escape which is what cowards want. (note: this is ONLY talking about those that do commit suicide for no "valid" reason.)

    I'd be more inclined to believe in the "bravery" bit if they were religious and a part of a religion that forbids suicide. At least then they are "risking" going to hell or whatever equivalent their religion holds.
    I don't believe in heaven or hell - and the thought of death and oblivion does frighten me. So yes it does take bravery. To end yourself permanently.

    In fact I hold the exact opposite opinion. Those who think they do go somewhere after death - i think are cheating. Trying to cut in line in a sense. Cowardly avoiding life in attempt to get to whatever they think is on the other side.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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