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Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

Is Hillary the Democrats only REALISTICALLY PLAUSIBLE option?


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Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?

Mark my words, there's an Oprah looming on the horizon.
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?

Of course not. She just has the highest name recognition for the pundits at the moment.
 
Why Won't Anyone Challenge Hillary

...It’s nearly unthinkable that after all this time, work, and scheming, Hillary would simply abandon her quest — unless some unforeseen wrongdoing emerges that makes her unpalatable for Democrats. But if we suspend our disbelief for a moment and imagine that unethical behavior could catch up with her, the result would hardly be the tragedy many liberals would envision or the boon many conservatives would anticipate. Many Democrats probably feel as if there’s no other viable choice. But despite the generous treatment she’s received from the media, Hillary has never been an especially electrifying or potent political power. She badly fumbled away her first preordained presidential nomination to Barack Obama — falling into every trap imaginable along the way. Nearly every high-profile project she took on during her husband’s administration turned into a disaster. Her time as secretary of state is now riddled with questions. And she has never effectively rallied grass-roots activists to her cause — probably because her only real cause is Hillary. Or put it this way: Even Martin O’Malley would be a better candidate than Hillary Clinton.... In some ways, Hillary is the Mitt Romney of the Democratic party.

Just as in 2008, activists and donors wouldn’t find it difficult to support and fund more idealistic or competent alternatives if they emerged. There are many ambitious senators and governors in this country. November 2016 is a long way off.
 
It doesn't look like anyone else in the Democratic Party can win the nomination, let alone the General.

We'll see if this email thing may hold water but latest polls have hillary 35+ points ahead of all other potential candidates (Warren, Biden etc.).

Whereas on the Republican end we'll see interesting primaries, Bush and Walker within a few points of eachother holding the lead at this time.

Doesn't mean anything til we get properly started though.
 
Of course not. She just has the highest name recognition for the pundits at the moment.

....and will they survive a primary against the Clinton Machine? Hillary's not going to bow out or go quietly into that good night.
 
....and will they survive a primary against the Clinton Machine? Hillary's not going to bow out or go quietly into that good night.

Perhaps if she chooses to run. It might just very well come to whoever else tries to run. What works in New Hampshire might not work in South Carolina might not work on Super Tuesday states. If Warren ran, she would have the same appeal as Hillary without the baggage. I would not be surprised to see a no-named current or former governor come in with some momentum. If you can get good showings early on, you will likely pick up a lot more money to keep you going. It is still a myth that you would need $100M before you announce in your war chest to have a shot.
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?

Jim Webb for me & others if Bush is the R nominee

Fauxahontas for the flaming libs.:twocents:
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?

Hilary is the CORPORATE/BANKING basket, same as the Republicans. Yes, there are lots of people who see the need for Big Change and Warren, Sanders, Gore, are examples.
 
Hillary is definitely it.

Will be interesting to see what the country decides on. A Fat rich pudgy man or a fat rich pudgy woman.
 
It doesn't look like anyone else in the Democratic Party can win the nomination, let alone the General.
Not that I disagree with you, but how can that be?? How can a major political party have but one person capable of winning a national election? If shes the nominee, shes not going to win. The woman has zero in the way of enthusiasm behind her candidacy. You need to look no farther than democrats here on DP to see that. To me, shes got that "next in line" quality that brought us such great presidents as Presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. From what I cant tell, she brings two things to the table: 1) shes a woman 2) nostalgia for her husband. That's not gonna cut it.
 

Been saying this for ages; that Hillary is the Romney of the Democrats. Given the ways in which the Dems are different from the Reps, there is basically no way she's getting nominated.

At the end of the day, she has not said she's even going to run, and there will probably be half a dozen other serious Democrats in the running once the time gets a little closer. Hillary is not only not a guaranteed candidate, but she's almost a guaranteed non-candidate.

I mean, the only reason Romney wound up picking up the nomination is because almost everyone else in the race was literally bat**** insane.

That's not going to happen with the Democratic line-up. More likely, they'll all be unbearably boring and spineless. But Hillary is boring and spineless too, so she'll still lose, because she won't just be that. She'll also be an establishment flip-flopper that most Dems kind of dislike, in the same way most Reps kind of disliked Romney.

The series of circumstances it would require for Hillary to get the nomination is so Rube Goldberg-esque it's barely worth thinking about.
 
Al Gore could mount a solid campaign for the nomination should Clinton decide in the next few months that she will stand down. Gore has experience, great name recognition and the best slogan anyone could have in 2016

He won the first time - now make it official!
 
Al Gore could mount a solid campaign for the nomination should Clinton decide in the next few months that she will stand down. Gore has experience, great name recognition and the best slogan anyone could have in 2016

He won the first time - now make it official!
Hes been out of politics for 15 years. And even when he was in, he wasn't that good. Its hard to just jump in the middle of a debate when you are out of practice. Just ask Perry. But if a stiff, wooden, unlikeable candidate is what you are after, Gore is your man.
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep?
Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?



Who is going to beat Hillary Clinton?

She may not be the best thing since sliced bread but she's way ahead of everyone else.
 
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Hes been out of politics for 15 years. And even when he was in, he wasn't that good. Its hard to just jump in the middle of a debate when you are out of practice. Just ask Perry. But if a stiff, wooden, unlikeable candidate is what you are after, Gore is your man.

I thought Gore was much better on the stump when he ran in 2000 that some give him credit for. Yes - he has been away for a bit and that is a disadvantage coming out the gate IF the field were crowded. But the Dems have a different situation that could allow him to sweep in relatively unmolested or challenged should Clinton decide not to run. And I think that is the only way he would run.

The next question then would be Biden and what he decides to do.
 
Hes been out of politics for 15 years. And even when he was in, he wasn't that good. Its hard to just jump in the middle of a debate when you are out of practice. Just ask Perry. But if a stiff, wooden, unlikeable candidate is what you are after, Gore is your man.

He had more popular vote than Bush received.
 
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?

I went with "there are many plausible candidates". The fact is, in this election Hillary is able to raise tons of money and looks like she could beat anybody that wins the Republican primary.

Corey Booker, Jim Web (one of my favs), Elizabeth Warren, Martin O'Malley to name a few. All would be good potential candidates.
 
Al Gore could mount a solid campaign for the nomination should Clinton decide in the next few months that she will stand down. Gore has experience, great name recognition and the best slogan anyone could have in 2016

He won the first time - now make it official!

Lol !
Al Gore didn't win anything and his Global warming alarmist hackery has destroyed any chance of him retaining any semblance of credibility.
 
Lol !
Al Gore didn't win anything and his Global warming alarmist hackery has destroyed any chance of him retaining any semblance of credibility.

He won the popular vote which is no small feat.

So I guess you were voting for him until the global warming thing hit?
 
Realistic with a chance to get passed the primary? Yea: Martin O'Malley.
Realistic with no chance in hell getting passed the primary? Yea: Bernie Sanders
 
Hilary is the CORPORATE/BANKING basket, same as the Republicans. Yes, there are lots of people who see the need for Big Change and Warren, Sanders, Gore, are examples.

Gore? what are you on today? most of your posts are rants against oil companies and yet the "Inconvenient Truth" is that Gore got his $500 million payday from oil profits
 
Mark my words, there's an Oprah looming on the horizon.

You nailed it... Demokrats tend to rely on some type of circus act.

We had culture of corruption, war on women... which are both hilarious as the Dems are the Poster Children for both.
We had Obama, the least experienced person in any room he entered.
Now they're banking on a vagina.
 
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