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Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

Is Hillary the Democrats only REALISTICALLY PLAUSIBLE option?

  • Yes. It's Hillary Or Bust for the Democrats.

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • No - there is at least one other possibility (name)

    Votes: 13 36.1%

  • No - there are many other plausibly realistic possibilities

    Votes: 11 30.6%
  • Total voters
    36
cpwill said:
...you think there is a possibility she doesn't?
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I have always thought that. There isn't a thing to base that thought on. But Hillary is not Bill, she does not have his Charisma and charm. She does not have the ability to connect with the people like Bill had. She also can come across as aloof and snobbish. Sort of a know it all.

I think she knows she will have a hard time among independents. I think she wants to keep personal things personal. She has been through Whitewater, Paula Jones, Monica, Benghazi and much more. This e-mail controversy is just the latest. I think James Caravel had it right, he said Hillary just didn't want Republicans going through her e-mails is why she kept a personal e-mail account instead of a state department one. Perhaps in the end, she just ties of all the dirty laundry and muck raking.

Still, there is nothing solid to go by. Just a hunch.
 
IMO the Democrats have at this date only one strong viable option to Hillary, and that's Jim Webb.

O'Malley is an interesting idea though.
 
Perotista said:
I have always thought that. There isn't a thing to base that thought on. But Hillary is not Bill, she does not have his Charisma and charm. She does not have the ability to connect with the people like Bill had. She also can come across as aloof and snobbish. Sort of a know it all.

I think she knows she will have a hard time among independents. I think she wants to keep personal things personal. She has been through Whitewater, Paula Jones, Monica, Benghazi and much more. This e-mail controversy is just the latest. I think James Caravel had it right, he said Hillary just didn't want Republicans going through her e-mails is why she kept a personal e-mail account instead of a state department one. Perhaps in the end, she just ties of all the dirty laundry and muck raking.

Still, there is nothing solid to go by. Just a hunch.
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I think there IS a large chance that she won't run. Eight years ago she was a relatively young woman and and the energy. I don't see it now. She is flat, she speaks to the rear wall of the room and not the audience, she looks tired.

You are right about her not being Bill, she is not even Bush. She is in fact a huge turn off, her voice is raspy, she talks down to everyone, even the "announcement' at the last news conference was telling us what's what, like a teacher half committed to the course.

In the meantime, she is being undermined by the White House in a battle over who is in control of the party after Obama leaves, and the White House is winning.

So, I would say she is weighing her options. She wants it more than a junkie needs a fix, but whether it's too late or not is still out there begging an answer. I say it is.
 
Fearandloathing said:
If you knew anything about her ego/anger issues you would eat crushed glass first
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I would eat crushed glass with my rectum before I would vote for another Bush.
 
Have you ever wondered what Bill feels about Hillary running or becoming president. An ex-president playing first lady so to speak. Even when Hillary was secretary of state, it was still Bill who drew the big crowds and enthusiastic responses from them. Compare that with Hilary's book tour. Bill still out shined his wife even though she held office and he didn't.

I think if this e-mail thing heats up, she just might say to hell with it. She is getting little cover from the White House and fellow Democrats. I have always said there will be a fresh face, much like Obama was in 2008. But I don't have a thing to base that on except a gut feeling.
 
cpwill said:
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
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I don't think so. Though she's probably one of the only Democrats I'd consider voting for (depending on the Republican nominee). But it seems like they have a fair amount of possibilities, for example what about Jim Webb, Joe Biden, Brian Schweitzer, Andrew Cuomo, and a few other names that I think would be viable options for a general election.
 
Sherman123 said:
I don't think so. Though she's probably one of the only Democrats I'd consider voting for (depending on the Republican nominee). But it seems like they have a fair amount of possibilities, for example what about Jim Webb, Joe Biden, Brian Schweitzer, Andrew Cuomo, and a few other names that I think would be viable options for a general election.
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Jim Webb and Andrew Cuomo both have base problems. Unions loathe Cuomo, and Webb is a Reagan Democrat. Biden is at least 50% likely to announce during a televised debate that he has decided that squirrels are literally the awesomest animals on the planet, despite the fact that they aren't really mammals, and Brian Schweitzer has so much name recognition that bona fida obsessives like myself would respond with "who?".
 
cpwill said:
Jim Webb and Andrew Cuomo both have base problems. Unions loathe Cuomo, and Webb is a Reagan Democrat. Biden is at least 50% likely to announce during a televised debate that he has decided that squirrels are literally the awesomest animals on the planet, despite the fact that they aren't really mammals, and Brian Schweitzer has so much name recognition that bona fida obsessives like myself would respond with "who?".
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That would be amazing. I would vote for a man that honest and uncensored.
 
haymarket said:
It is a key, central and important factor in the election of the President. And to many Americans it means a great deal. To many Americans, they view Gore as the legitimate winner and Bush as the illegitimate interloper who became President and presided over 911.
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it's true, there are quite a few morons who don't know what the hell the electoral college is or how it works.
 
Hilary was the big candidate to beat last time she ran and Obama wasn't really well known until he started campaigning. Although at the time there are no candidates that stand out other than her because of the way the media makes it out.
 
as to the topic.... it's a bit early, but it's looking like Hillary is being declared the winner already.

none of the lefties can get the nomination or win the general ( sanders, warren).. ..I'm hopeful Webb can get in the hunt and be a contender, but I dunno.. the Clinton machine is awfully powerful .. and even the candidates themselves are scared of even talking about Hillary ( let along battling her)

IMO, this is shaping up to be a race utterly bereft of good candidates.. neither Dems nor Reps have anyone worth getting excited over.
hopefully that changes as the race really heats up, though.
 
There doesn't need to be--except for GOPs trying to divide the DEMs.

The GOP is simply Willie Horton on steroids and now to a higher exponent these days.

Still the party of Nixon, driving up the negatives of a DEM and driving down voter participation by turning off voters and with voter suppression.

While lying about Clinton's emails being equal to Nixon's 18-minute gap .
 
Exactly--four times in our history the GOP has won the Electoral College and lost the popular vote.
None for the DEMs .

Thrilla said:
it's true, there are quite a few morons who don't know what the hell the electoral college is or how it works.
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They don't even know that most states before the Civil War used the Congressional District method for allocating Electoral Votes .
 
Grand Mal said:
If the electorate are idiots and the opposing candidate's an idiot and you still can't win, maybe you're an idiot.
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I disagree. As a person who sells insurance, there's times where I know that the only answer some people will accept are lies. Those people are idiots and I'm sure some of them vote.
 
NIMBY said:
There doesn't need to be--except for GOPs trying to divide the DEMs.

The GOP is simply Willie Horton on steroids and now to a higher exponent these days.

Still the party of Nixon, driving up the negatives of a DEM and driving down voter participation by turning off voters and with voter suppression.

While lying about Clinton's emails being equal to Nixon's 18-minute gap .
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There's such a lack of talent in the GOP for decades they can only pull they're presidents from one family.
 
Crovax said:
Gore? what are you on today? most of your posts are rants against oil companies and yet the "Inconvenient Truth" is that Gore got his $500 million payday from oil profits
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That's correct. He has enough money to finance his own campaign, however his energy conservation credentials are valid. He beat Bush by half a million votes and the SCOTUS gave Bush the big job and Bush did the Big Job on us. The Nation still hasn't recovered. Gore's money came from his Daddy Senator's OIL investments and that is correct. It takes someone with big independent money to take on Big Energy and Big Banking. That makes him more viable than many other candidates, especially form my GREEN point of view.
 
DaveFagan said:
That's correct. He has enough money to finance his own campaign, however his energy conservation credentials are valid. He beat Bush by half a million votes and the SCOTUS gave Bush the big job and Bush did the Big Job on us. The Nation still hasn't recovered. Gore's money came from his Daddy Senator's OIL investments and that is correct. It takes someone with big independent money to take on Big Energy and Big Banking. That makes him more viable than many other candidates, especially form my GREEN point of view.
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Al Gore's energy credentials are ****

Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- A $30,000 Utility Bill - ABC News

and the oil money I was referring to was not his dad's but his sale of Current TV to Al Jazeera whose money comes from fossil fuels and they also fund terrorism

not to mention that Gore is boring and uninspiring he makes Mitt Romney look like a real human
 
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