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Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

Is Hillary the Democrats only REALISTICALLY PLAUSIBLE option?

  • Yes. It's Hillary Or Bust for the Democrats.

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • No - there is at least one other possibility (name)

    Votes: 13 36.1%

  • No - there are many other plausibly realistic possibilities

    Votes: 11 30.6%
  • Total voters
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cpwill said:
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
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The bench isn't one-deep. The Democrats have tens of interested Democratic politicians, who'd love to run for President. The reason they're nowhere to be seen right now, is that before the primary, there's a pre-primary. The pre-primary consists of all the "behind the scenes" work of lining up campaign donors, allies on the Hill and at the DNC, and the hiring of potential campaign staffers.

Hillary has squashed the pre-primary competition. Her donors and allies are that formidable, that it's dissuaded any serious Democratic candidate from even floating trial balloons. Maybe this 'email controversy' will stir up second-thoughts and siphon off the intra-party support necessary for more serious candidates; but 2016 is just not going to be a crowded, open primary on the Democratic side.
 
Jetboogieman said:
It doesn't look like anyone else in the Democratic Party can win the nomination, let alone the General.

We'll see if this email thing may hold water but latest polls have hillary 35+ points ahead of all other potential candidates (Warren, Biden etc.).

Whereas on the Republican end we'll see interesting primaries, Bush and Walker within a few points of eachother holding the lead at this time.

Doesn't mean anything til we get properly started though.
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The press will dump her hard for anything that has half a brain and can spew the Socialist line, reading a teleprompteur eloquently, and then they'll propagandize for the candidate like the devil... Just like they did last time when they dropped Hillary like bagged dog feces.

FOURNIER: DEMOCRATS ‘SCARED TO DEATH’ OVER HILLARY CLINTON
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/03/16/fournier-democrats-scared-to-death-over-hillary-clinton/
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
The series of circumstances it would require for Hillary to get the nomination is so Rube Goldberg-esque it's barely worth thinking about.
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I think the only thing it'll take is everyone else being intimidated by the vast amounts of resources she has at her disposal and not wanting to have to raise billions of dollars to combat her. That's basically why Sanders isn't running. Hillary Clinton has been the most prominent liberal in the national news after the president for years. She has so momentum behind her already. And as much as we'd like them to grow a spine, the Democratic establishment doesn't want really progressive candidates. They want safe moderates because they're safe moderates. The more vocal liberal wing of the Democratic party doesn't run it.
 
haymarket said:
He won the popular vote which is no small feat.

So I guess you were voting for him until the global warming thing hit?
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Since when did we start using the popular vote to elect Presidents ?
 
zimmer said:
You nailed it... Demokrats tend to rely on some type of circus act.

We had culture of corruption, war on women... which are both hilarious as the Dems are the Poster Children for both.
We had Obama, the least experienced person in any room he entered.
Now they're banking on a vagina.
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The Republican Party couldn't get Abraham Lincoln elected tomorrow.
Don't blame the Democrats, don't even blame the electorate. Blame the incompetent boobs in the RNC.
 
Grand Mal said:
The Republican Party couldn't get Abraham Lincoln elected tomorrow.
Don't blame the Democrats, don't even blame the electorate. Blame the incompetent boobs in the RNC.
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No the electorate DOES deserve allot of the blame.

These were some of the same people that believed Bush " lied " and who equated bumper sticker slogans and empty platitudes to Presidential qualifications.
 
Fenton said:
Since when did we start using the popular vote to elect Presidents ?
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It is a key, central and important factor in the election of the President. And to many Americans it means a great deal. To many Americans, they view Gore as the legitimate winner and Bush as the illegitimate interloper who became President and presided over 911.
 
haymarket said:
It is a key, central and important factor in the election of the President. And to many Americans it means a great deal. To many Americans, they view Gore as the legitimate winner and Bush as the illegitimate interloper who became President and presided over 911.
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Gore just invented the Internet and works hard to increase his personal carbon footprint.

Al Gore's Carbon Footprint Is Big. - BusinessWeek
 
Grand Mal said:
The Republican Party couldn't get Abraham Lincoln elected tomorrow.
Don't blame the Democrats, don't even blame the electorate. Blame the incompetent boobs in the RNC.
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Oh... Republicans have tons of blame to shoulder.

Need to get I's and D's out of voting in our primaries for starters, and we need to nominate folks... Conservatives... who will fight. Obama was the lamest of candidates. Republicans simply didn't rip him apart and force the press to follow their lead.

I mean really... how do you lose to an anti-American who was mentored by Marxists, racists and associated with known terrorists?
 
zimmer said:
Oh... Republicans have tons of blame to shoulder.

Need to get I's and D's out of voting in our primaries for starters, and we need to nominate folks... Conservatives... who will fight. Obama was the lamest of candidates. Republicans simply didn't rip him apart and force the press to follow their lead.

I mean really... how do you lose to an anti-American who was mentored by Marxists, racists and associated with known terrorists?
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That's easy, be a party that turns off everyone except for 45+ year old white males.
 
iliveonramen said:
That's easy, be a party that turns off everyone except for 45+ year old white males.
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Yet somehow that party controls the House, the Senate, the majority of governorships and state legislatures. So much for your theory...
 
Fenton said:
Since when did we start using the popular vote to elect Presidents ?
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It's funny to hear people complain about the status quo and then support the electoral college, a measure put in place to protect that status quo.

Grand Mal said:
The Republican Party couldn't get Abraham Lincoln elected tomorrow.
Don't blame the Democrats, don't even blame the electorate. Blame the incompetent boobs in the RNC.
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I blame the electorate. I blame the electorate for being swayed by stupid slogans and listening to lies and succumbing to base ideas like punishing the poor or waging war on drugs. I blame the electorate for being so unrealistic as to buy the lie when a have tells them that they're all "soon to haves". I blame the electorate for being racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and just generally selfish and petty. Our leaders reflect and reinforce our society, and our society needs a lot of work.

Fenton said:
No the electorate DOES deserve allot of the blame.

These were some of the same people that believed Bush " lied " and who equated bumper sticker slogans and empty platitudes to Presidential qualifications.
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I blame the electorate for being ignorant enough to say things like this, for example.

haymarket said:
It is a key, central and important factor in the election of the President. And to many Americans it means a great deal. To many Americans, they view Gore as the legitimate winner and Bush as the illegitimate interloper who became President and presided over 911.
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I think all the voter suppression of black Floridians makes it even more that way. Without criminal interference by Bush's brother, he would have lost. And then without daddy's friends on the bench deciding to just give him the election, he would also have lost.

zimmer said:
I mean really... how do you lose to an anti-American who was mentored by Marxists, racists and associated with known terrorists?
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By being so out of touch with reality that you think those accusations are actually true.

iliveonramen said:
Old people vote...consistently.
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If any other demographic voted as consistently as old white people, especially old white men, it would be a landslide victory for Democrats. It's insane how simple is to wrest power from these lunatics, but it doesn't happen.
 
Paschendale said:
It's funny to hear people complain about the status quo and then support the electoral college, a measure put in place to protect that status quo.



I blame the electorate. I blame the electorate for being swayed by stupid slogans and listening to lies and succumbing to base ideas like punishing the poor or waging war on drugs. I blame the electorate for being so unrealistic as to buy the lie when a have tells them that they're all "soon to haves". I blame the electorate for being racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and just generally selfish and petty. Our leaders reflect and reinforce our society, and our society needs a lot of work.



I blame the electorate for being ignorant enough to say things like this, for example.



I think all the voter suppression of black Floridians makes it even more that way. Without criminal interference by Bush's brother, he would have lost. And then without daddy's friends on the bench deciding to just give him the election, he would also have lost.



By being so out of touch with reality that you think those accusations are actually true.



If any other demographic voted as consistently as old white people, especially old white men, it would be a landslide victory for Democrats. It's insane how simple is to wrest power from these lunatics, but it doesn't happen.
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But Millions DID equate empty platitudes and bumper sticker slogans to Presidential qualifications....TWICE.

And it shows. Some of these people are running around with their hands in the air screaming " hands up dont shoot " even AFTER the DOJ cleared Officer Wilson.

America has been set upon by idiots and the Democrats know this. They cater to them. They feed them bs narratives about " Wars on women "and " inequality and expect a vote in return
 
Fenton said:
No the electorate DOES deserve allot of the blame.

These were some of the same people that believed Bush " lied " and who equated bumper sticker slogans and empty platitudes to Presidential qualifications.
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If the electorate are idiots and the opposing candidate's an idiot and you still can't win, maybe you're an idiot.
 
Grand Mal said:
If the electorate are idiots and the opposing candidate's an idiot and you still can't win, maybe you're an idiot.
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I'm not a Democrat or a Obama supporter so me being an idiot is highly doubtful.

And which candidate on the right is a idiot ?
 
Fenton said:
I'm not a Democrat or a Obama supporter so me being an idiot is highly doubtful.
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And with that statement, the odds changed dramatically.

Fenton said:
And which candidate on the right is a idiot ?
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I don't know, maybe none. I guess we'll see when there is a candidate.
 
iliveonramen said:
Old people vote...consistently.
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Old people are all males? Old people put republicans in control of 68 of 98 state legislatures? Old people elected republican governors in states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Maryland, New Jersey and a majority of other states? Old people put republicans in charge of the House by the largest majority since WWI? Old people put republicans in charge of the US Senate? Might be time for you to get your head out of the sand.
 
Grand Mal said:
And with that statement, the odds changed dramatically.



I don't know, maybe none. I guess we'll see when there is a candidate.
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No, there is no change in the " odds ", I'm no idiot

I didn't buy into the bs manufactured narratives and faux outrage that the Democrats used to vilify Bush and I didn't buy into the bumper sticker slogans and outright lies that got our current disaster in chief elected.

If you DID then thats your problem, not mine.
 
Paschendale said:
It's funny to hear people complain about the status quo and then support the electoral college, a measure put in place to protect that status quo.



I blame the electorate. I blame the electorate for being swayed by stupid slogans and listening to lies and succumbing to base ideas like punishing the poor or waging war on drugs. I blame the electorate for being so unrealistic as to buy the lie when a have tells them that they're all "soon to haves". I blame the electorate for being racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and just generally selfish and petty. Our leaders reflect and reinforce our society, and our society needs a lot of work.



I blame the electorate for being ignorant enough to say things like this, for example.



I think all the voter suppression of black Floridians makes it even more that way. Without criminal interference by Bush's brother, he would have lost. And then without daddy's friends on the bench deciding to just give him the election, he would also have lost.



By being so out of touch with reality that you think those accusations are actually true.



If any other demographic voted as consistently as old white people, especially old white men, it would be a landslide victory for Democrats. It's insane how simple is to wrest power from these lunatics, but it doesn't happen.
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Its not easy to pack that much nonsense into a single post. But you did it. Congrats.
 
cpwill said:
Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
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It seems at this point if Hillary runs and wants the Democratic nomination it is hers. But if she doesn't run there are plenty of other options. Now I would discount Biden even though he is running second in most polls. But I think they would go with a relative new face.
 
Perotista said:
It seems at this point if Hillary runs and wants the Democratic nomination it is hers.
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...you think there is a possibility she doesn't?
 
Fletch said:
Old people are all males? Old people put republicans in control of 68 of 98 state legislatures? Old people elected republican governors in states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Maryland, New Jersey and a majority of other states? Old people put republicans in charge of the House by the largest majority since WWI? Old people put republicans in charge of the US Senate? Might be time for you to get your head out of the sand.
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Election demographics are very different than national demographics. This is magnified during mid terms. Those are just facts. Voters are typically much older and whiter than national demographics.
 
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