View Poll Results: Is Hillary the Democrats only REALISTICALLY PLAUSIBLE option?

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  • Yes. It's Hillary Or Bust for the Democrats.

    12 33.33%
  • No - there is at least one other possibility (name)

    13 36.11%
  • No - there are many other plausibly realistic possibilities

    11 30.56%
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Personally, I find Elizabeth Warren a lot more interesting and inspiring than Hillary, although, bar no surprises, Hillary will likely be the uncontested nominee.

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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
    No. And - there are no realistic Republican alternatives to Hillary either. So we're all stuck.
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
    Rham Emanuel, Chuck Schumer and I hung Joe Biden would be super fun to have as Predident. If I were a democrat I'd vote for him in the primary just to lighten things up. He's as qualified and capable as anyone and a good sense of humor doesn't mean he's not a decent guy or not smart.
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Somebody will come out of nowhere.
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Measured in terms of items like ability to build broad bases of support, national infrastructure, and the like. Are the Democrats stuck with a bench that is one-deep? Are all of their eggs really in the Hillary basket?
    The Dems may be "one deep"....but the GOP is zero-deep with the current group of clowns running for their nomination. Unless someone comes out of the woodwork....this election is going to be a cakewalk. There isn't a single "Front runner" candidate in the GOP that even stands a chance. They might as well run Sarah Palin....at least she would make it interesting.
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The Dems may be "one deep"....but the GOP is zero-deep with the current group of clowns running for their nomination. Unless someone comes out of the woodwork....this election is going to be a cakewalk. There isn't a single "Front runner" candidate in the GOP that even stands a chance. They might as well run Sarah Palin....at least she would make it interesting.
    baseless bluster. The GOP has a fairly good bench at this point of substantive governors who have actually managed to do things. Bush and Christie both have problems with the party, which is why they probably won't be the nominee. Walker and Jindal both have excellent records (Walker has won three elections in a purple state and taken on public unions, Jindal was so obviously going to win reelection last time around that the national Democrats didn't even bother to back anyone against him, and has dramatic education reforms to his name) and national name recognition. Rubio's experience in leadership is in holding the post of Speaker of the House in Florida, rather than the Governorship, but he's the best communicator on either side of the aisle at this point.

    Meanwhile, Clinton's strength is that she A) has convinced Democrats that she is inevitable as their nominee and B) she has a lot of money. She's not a good politician, she doesn't have a good track record of accomplishment, and she doesn't even seem to have an organizing principle to her campaign other than "It's My Turn To Be President", which turns off the Democrat base.

    But hey, if you need to Believe in order to swallow your pride and pull the lever for the Candidate From Goldman Sachs.... You do what you gotta do.

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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Two that jump to mind that have a legitimate shot at the Primary....

    Elizabeth Warren - I think there's a good chance, if there's no other strong "base" candidate, that she could challenge Hillary in the primary. I don't know if she'd take her, but I think she has a reasonable shot. I don't think she has a good shot in the Genreal.

    Jim Webb - If National Defense/National Security continue to be an important issue going into the primary, I think Webb could be a very strong sleeper. His chances improve if Hillary gets tied to more and more scandals that seem to raise some eye brows across both aisle, like the current email situation. I think Webb could pose as an interesting general election challenge as well and have a very good shot. His military background, as well as his connection to the Reagan White House, could help him bridge the gap to independents/moderates/diseffected Republicans, especially if the opponent is Jeb.

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    Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    They have almost no other option, but you could point to a Webb gaining traction.

    God knows how, but Hillary will have to throw a few bones to the populists by selecting a Sanders or a Warren-substitute (since it is doubtful she would end her yet young political career as VP). This is especially difficult, given that unless an incoming administration wants a Cheney-like VP (and Democrats are especially allergic to this), then all it is is a symbolic move that down the road policy proposals will keep progressives in mind.
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    Re: Are there any realistic Democrat Alternatives to Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    baseless bluster. The GOP has a fairly good bench at this point of substantive governors who have actually managed to do things. Bush and Christie both have problems with the party, which is why they probably won't be the nominee. Walker and Jindal both have excellent records (Walker has won three elections in a purple state and taken on public unions, Jindal was so obviously going to win reelection last time around that the national Democrats didn't even bother to back anyone against him, and has dramatic education reforms to his name) and national name recognition. Rubio's experience in leadership is in holding the post of Speaker of the House in Florida, rather than the Governorship, but he's the best communicator on either side of the aisle at this point.

    Meanwhile, Clinton's strength is that she A) has convinced Democrats that she is inevitable as their nominee and B) she has a lot of money. She's not a good politician, she doesn't have a good track record of accomplishment, and she doesn't even seem to have an organizing principle to her campaign other than "It's My Turn To Be President", which turns off the Democrat base.

    But hey, if you need to Believe in order to swallow your pride and pull the lever for the Candidate From Goldman Sachs.... You do what you gotta do.
    LOL....none of the current GOP lot can hold a candle in the GE. You guys might as well nominate Cruz beause he stands as much chance as any of the others. The reality is, the one one who stands a chance in the GE (assuming Hilary runs) is Christie....and he will never get close to getting the nomination.
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