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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Interesting poll/thread.

    2 points:

    --In the US, most or many hospitals must treat non-citizens as well as citizens in life-threatening instances

    --the use of 'right' affects my answer. Do I think that 'right to life' applies here? No. (But the OP may disagree). However I do think that as a civilized society, this is another 'safety net' that taxpayers should subsidize. Am I happy about it? No but I see little decent return on the taxes they take for public schools or other things as well.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    I never understood the hatred people, especially people on the right, have for a universal health care in this country. They scream it's socialism, etc. The fact is that's what we have now, and have had for decades. Someone without health insurance or money shows up at a hospital they must be treated. Who pays? The taxpayers and the people with health insurance. Socialism.

    Anyway I rather we use our money to treat people here in the US instead of spending trillions overseas to build up other people's countries and health care system. We spent trillions of tax payers money in Iraq, for nothing. Spend it here on Americans.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    Everyone has a right to life, and hospitals should care for everyone. They shouldn't have to eat the cost though. Everyone should help out with that.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    Yes. And they already do, and we already pay for it, which is one of the reasons we should implement a single-payer healthcare system.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Of course. I thought hospitals could refuse no one?
    Private hospitals that do not accept government funding are not required to provide treatment...even emergency medical treatment. All facilities that receive federal funding or are granted non profit status must follow COBRA and EMTALA guidelines.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Fascinating. So you oppose universal healthcare, then when someone who can't afford the "hilariously expensive" treatment, you tell them they can just die, be it man, woman, or child. Your lack of empathy for your fellow human beings is absolutely mind-blowing.

    "Oh, you've got a gunshot wound and we could easily help you? Sorry, you better bleed out on the ground bitch because you don't have the cash."
    Also, he forgot to mention he is on his parents health insurance plan.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying 'everyone is insured, thus no problem', or that 'you don't care, thus no problem'? Regardless of what side you're on, you have to admit that our system is incredibly ineffecient, expensive and many Americans are dying or going broke because of the astronomically and unnecessarily high cost of our health care.



    That is completely incorrect. The other modern western countries in the world who all have healthcare systems where just about every citizen is covered have shown that this model is dramatically cheaper than ours. In Germany every single person is insured and the entire medical system costs less than half of what it does in the US. This isn't a zero sum game, it's possible for an entire country to benefit from changes.



    Do you believe that everyone who doesn't have insurance is a lazy dumbass?
    Its always a little disconcerting to see that facts are so different to different people. But I can say with confidence that for many years I've asked posters to provide examples of people who have been turned away from emergency rooms and no one has ever been able to do that. And I'm quite sure that if that happened we'd see big national headlines about it. I've never seen such headlines.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    As opposed to what??? Bankrupting it by starting and continuing wars? Bankrupting it by bailing out corporations and CEO's? Bankrupting it by supporting "foreign interests"? Bankrupting it by bailing out Wall Street?

    I'd far rather spend money helping Americans, than spend money killing non-Americans or bailing out uber-rich Americans and/or corporations.
    Umm the US is bankrupt, over a 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic at this point

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    Not if they support abortion they don't....don't let them fool ya...

    Neither is the reverse true.

    Can't be pro life and not want to save one.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    The current law is that hospitals must treat anyone that shows up in ER with an acute life threatening condition. The hospital must treat to the extent possible and/or transfer somewhere else. If it's not life threatening, like a broken arm on a healthy person, they don't have to treat. That seems appropriate to me.

    BTW, it's not just poor who don't have insurance. Some middle class who are unemployed or let their private insurance lapse or don't want to buy Obamacare don't have insurance.
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