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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The U.S. government thinks that those who can't afford to pay have a right to emergency medical care.

    Hospitals have been providing this for a long time.

    This is nothing new. This subject has been plowed more than Paris Hilton.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Of course. Anything less would be highly immoral.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Then why have SNAP (food stamps) instead of simply forcing food providers to serve the poor at little or no cost?
    Starvation is not an immediate need. Emergency care is. A person that goes to apply for SNAP assistance is not at the point of mal-nourishment as to be life threatening.

    If a person were so emaciated to be a health problem...they would not be taken by paramedics to HHS to apply for SNAP or a private soup kitchen for help.

    Likewise, A person going to an Emergency room for an illness, they by law must triage the person to assess the severity of the illness. If the person can be moved [or sent] to a county hospital...they have complied with the law.

    Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Then why have SNAP (food stamps) instead of simply forcing food providers to serve the poor at little or no cost?



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    Because we chose to do it that way.




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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Then what good is ACA?


    It's the first step towards universal health care, Which the USA will have eventually. It's just a matter of time.

    Wait and see.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    As I already pointed out to you, and you ignored, universal healthcare is dramatically cheaper than our system.

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    So the real question is, if providing universal care is cheaper for the country as a whole, why would you let people die to pay more? This really has to do with your hard line beliefs and not actual facts or economics.

    It's easy for you to sit back on your parents insurance and whine about the "takers" when you've never worked a day in your life. Please grow up and mature.


    He'll probably grow up, whether he'll ever mature is another question.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What could be dramatically cheaper than "free" Medicaid or ER care? Does a non-poor German pay more or less taxes than a non-poor American?


    My guess is that it depends on the individual cases.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It's the first step towards universal health care.
    I'm not convinced by that, because of the way the health care system is splintered by Private entities and HMO's there's simply no way to make that work, what are you going to do, nationalize all the hospitals?

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If its a private institution uncompensated by anyone, I agree with Luftwaffe, its their call as to what they wish to do. As far as empathy goes if I don't know why should I care about you? Hell even if I did know you why should I care about you?


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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Starvation is not an immediate need. Emergency care is. A person that goes to apply for SNAP assistance is not at the point of mal-nourishment as to be life threatening.

    If a person were so emaciated to be a health problem...they would not be taken by paramedics to HHS to apply for SNAP or a private soup kitchen for help.

    Likewise, A person going to an Emergency room for an illness, they by law must triage the person to assess the severity of the illness. If the person can be moved [or sent] to a county hospital...they have complied with the law.

    Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The care is an emergency but the provider is virtually forced to add that cost to the bills of its other patients, while the SNAP cost is born by a carefully selected subset of the population (the taxpayers). You only address whether the cost of ER service should be required in advance, not why it should be born by the provider and passed on to others as the provider sees fit rather than paid using a progressive (and quite selective) means.
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