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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Should they? Of course. Careful what you wish for. Peoples personal and financial situations can change at any minute. You might be poor one day and that could be your child/loved one that requires assistance.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    I'm glad I don't live in a country where this is even a consideration.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Any developed country with a humane society can and should provide emergency medical care to anyone who needs it. Exactly how that is achieved obviously varies. Where you have a system of first responders and receiving emergency departments, it is impractical (if not immoral) to assess their ability to pay before providing emergency care. There is a valid question of how that care is then paid for (especially with privatised providers) but that can only be a question of how, not if.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Fascinating. So you oppose universal healthcare, then when someone who can't afford the "hilariously expensive" treatment, you tell them they can just die, be it man, woman, or child. Your lack of empathy for your fellow human beings is absolutely mind-blowing.

    "Oh, you've got a gunshot wound and we could easily help you? Sorry, you better bleed out on the ground bitch because you don't have the cash."
    Yet, the next step with that argument is that someone (the "rich"?) must pay for that care whether they use that care or not so that whoever needs care need not pay. That system works only so long as the cost of care can be fixed, such as we now do via police and fire fighting budgets - the fixed funds then provide for a fixed number of (government paid?) care providers and thus establish the level of "universal" care. Note the rarity of private police and fire fighting providers.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Doesn't the government have the responsibility to protect the lives of its citizens? As such, forcing hospitals to give emergency care to the poor does not seem to be unreasonable.
    Then why have SNAP (food stamps) instead of simply forcing food providers to serve the poor at little or no cost?
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Should they? Of course. Careful what you wish for. Peoples personal and financial situations can change at any minute. You might be poor one day and that could be your child/loved one that requires assistance.
    What if the person was a mass murderer? What if it was hopeless case (anancephalic baby)? Should we bankrupt the government in such a way?

    I think not, I don't care if it was one of my relatives who would die otherwise, exception making is weakness and unethical, and so is this.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Should we bankrupt the government in such a way?
    As opposed to what??? Bankrupting it by starting and continuing wars? Bankrupting it by bailing out corporations and CEO's? Bankrupting it by supporting "foreign interests"? Bankrupting it by bailing out Wall Street?

    I'd far rather spend money helping Americans, than spend money killing non-Americans or bailing out uber-rich Americans and/or corporations.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    Emergency care like unconscious male delivered in from being run over? Of course. That could be you.
    Or you mean drunk comes in with a fever? Then ask Obamacare for his insurance.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Of course. I thought hospitals could refuse no one?
    That law should no longer fly with ACA in place. Everyone is insured and so, they need to say who is paying. The hospital must check that it is true. You cannot just treat people that happen by anymore.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    As opposed to what??? Bankrupting it by starting and continuing wars? Bankrupting it by bailing out corporations and CEO's? Bankrupting it by supporting "foreign interests"? Bankrupting it by bailing out Wall Street?

    I'd far rather spend money helping Americans, than spend money killing non-Americans or bailing out uber-rich Americans and/or corporations.
    Perhaps you should want to spend on neither?

    Also, respond to my quote in full.
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