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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    By any chance did you notice that the 3 examples of alleged dumping were against the law. Again, we've provided a solution to a problem that didn't exist. And by the way, my doctor opted to form a concierge medical practice rather than get involved in the ACA. And they now longer take Medicare.
    Ys I did know it was against the law and.... How long did the VA Hospital no other way of calling it but murder, stay below the radar.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Every now and then a topic comes up here at DP in which the responses leave me shaking my head in bewilderment at the human species. This is one of those threads.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It is not only my problem, it is everyone's problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I don't think that it is unreasonable to expect that in a civilized society that trained professionals, such as the police are duty bound to protect citizens from such harm,
    Apparently you missed my liability comment.
    Civilized society? iLOL Our society isn't any more civilized than it has been prior. People are still killing, raping, robbing and harming others. And society surely hasn't done much in regards to preventing those people from coming into existence.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    and due to their better training are better able to judge when methods such as lethal force should be used.
    Police training? A few hours in the use of force continuum? iLOL The rest is garnered on the streets.
    They are trained to respond to perceived threats. With that training comes quicker reaction times.
    You place too much trust in what you think their training is.
    They, like any person, are able to judge for themselves what a threat is.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Leaving that up to citizens is the law of the west.
    Lame argument.
    Protecting your self from harm is not the wild west.
    People today do it all the time. They are not living in the wild west.


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    I disagree. Citizens have a right to live.
    A right to your natural life without government interference unless deprived by due process.
    That is what you have.


    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    If a government forces a hospital to give emergency care to the poor, it is certainly enforcing that right to live.
    If that was the purpose of the legislation you would have a point. All that is, is you trying to attach meaning it doesn't have.



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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    I think that in any advanced and civilized society, that yes even the poor deserve and should receive emergency medical care. They are human beings and we have the means and capacity to help them. And if we’re such a “Christian” nation, how could it be any other way? In general, I think we should have a for real universal healthcare system that is open to all citizens and provides some amount of basic medical care.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    I don't think the terms "advanced" and "civilized" should be equated with "government-mandated business actions".
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    It depends on what you mean by emergency care. If it's life-saving care, then yes. They should be required to stabilize anyone who comes in but that is all. If the person who comes in is an illegal alien, they should be required to call DHS and get that person deported. Anything beyond life-saving measures or public safety concerns though, no, they should not be required.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that in any advanced and civilized society, that yes even the poor deserve and should receive emergency medical care. They are human beings and we have the means and capacity to help them. And if we’re such a “Christian” nation, how could it be any other way? In general, I think we should have a for real universal healthcare system that is open to all citizens and provides some amount of basic medical care.
    Well now, hasn't it been your position we are not a Christian nation and that we should be fully secular? So, obviously appealing to an argument you rail against consistently isn't going to work. Under the current system we do not have the means. Unfortunately no one seems to have the means to do true universal healthcare (remember, you teeth are a part of your health profile).

    Until we have a universal health care system and have figured out how to supply and pay for that, the current system works fine.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    What do people mean... exactly... when they say "...only life-saving care, and that's it."?

    For example, if someone gets hit by a car and their leg is mangled, do we apply a tourniquet to stop the bleeding and send them on their way?

    Could you be a little more descriptive? Maybe provide an example of where the line would be?

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    I don't know ..
    That word "forced" , bothers me .. if a hospital must be "forced" to do something, an investigation is in order. I'd NOT want any hospital or doctor in my neighborhood that must be 'forced" in order to be humanitarian .
    And the poor , why do we have the "poor" in the first place ..
    Things are NOT as they should be .
    And, with an upgraded and improved national health care, this should not even be a topic for discussion ..

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Sad, in so many ways .. The mother loved the baby K so much that she hated it ......I think that there should have been a court order to terminate the pregnancy, even if forced, even if the mother has to spend her life behind bars..

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