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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Most do this voluntarily - you might want to research first prior to posting.
    The matter of voluntarily was removed. They are required by law and have been for some time.
    Back when it was voluntary they also had discretion on how they would care fir them. That went away too.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    I don't know about other states but here in the Columbus area there is a network of free clinics. I believe Ohio State University participates as well. I know doctors, dentists and nurses that dedicate hours each month to these facilities. Most hospitals I know accept Medicaid as payment. So what is the beef?

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    if the hospital has even 1 doctor who has sworn to the hippocratic oath, obviously it should.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do you think the poor have a right to life, and therefore emergency medical care?
    Yes but this is why I support the individual mandate, that great idea the Republicans came up with before it was more important for President Obama to fail, before anybody even knew who Obama was for that matter.

    If someone shows up at an ER without federally mandated coverage, garner their wages and tax refunds until the debt is paid in full. In fact, anybody who doesn't have coverage on their own is given the lowest premium coverage automatically and the costs are deducted from their pay. If an illegal aliens shows up, they get deported after they're well again, banned from entering the country until their debt is paid and if not paid within 10 years, that amount to deducted from whatever their country would have otherwise revived in foreign-aid paid instead to the hospital where their citizen was treated.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Its always a little disconcerting to see that facts are so different to different people. But I can say with confidence that for many years I've asked posters to provide examples of people who have been turned away from emergency rooms and no one has ever been able to do that. And I'm quite sure that if that happened we'd see big national headlines about it. I've never seen such headlines.
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Love them "not for profit" tax breaks, hate treating patients that they can't profit off of.

    Are hospitals passing off their low-profit patients?
    Stroger pays for transfers from nonprofit hospitals getting tax breaks

    Indigent and under-uninsured patients are turning to Cook County's Stroger Hospital after not getting fully treated at nonprofit hospitals, swamping the cash-strapped public facility while fueling the county's sky-high sales tax, a Tribune investigation found.

    Some of these patients arrive at Stroger's emergency room bearing discharge slips, prescriptions, even Yahoo and Google maps from nonprofits hospitals, according to documents obtained by the Tribune.

    "Go to Cook County Hospitals immediately," says a discharge slip for a man with a broken jaw.

    "Go to Cook County ER to be evaluated for admission," reads a discharge slip for a man with a tumor.

    "Follow up at Cook County Hospital for uterine tumor surgery," says another discharge slip brought into Stroger, which still is referred to by many as the county hospital.

    Nonprofit hospitals, meanwhile, reap millions of dollars in property and sales tax breaks from the county, based largely on the promise that they'll help the uninsured.....

    Read more here: Are hospitals passing off their low-profit patients? - tribunedigital-chicagotribune
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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The answer to your poll question is obviously 'no.' And your post just represents bogus package dealing. Yes, the poor have a right to life, but medical care does not exist in nature nor grow on trees. It has to be provided by other humans. This may surprise you, but no one has a 'right' to another mans labor.
    The government engages other humans in protecting the right to life of its citizens all the time. That is a weak argument.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Then why have SNAP (food stamps) instead of simply forcing food providers to serve the poor at little or no cost?
    I am not sure exactly how the accounting on that works, but at the very least it is a tax write off which means they recuperate some of the costs. Without looking it up, I would guess they get substantial tax breaks for that.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Since you specify "poor" in your OP and your poll, does that mean you place some distinction between poor and not poor? Do you allow a condition in which hospitals should not be forced to give emergency care to the not poor?
    They should give emergency care to people, regardless of their ability to pay.

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    Re: Should hospitals be forced to give emergency care to the poor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    One has nothing to do with the other.
    I disagree.

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