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  • Jeb did not turn over all of his government topic emails

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Thread: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    The CIA can be thought of as the intelligence and paramilitary arm of the State Department. Guess where Heads of Station take up residence?

    ...and who was head of the State Department during that time... ?
    Hillary, what's your point?
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hillary, what's your point?
    My point is the two incidents are inextricably related.

    When you bring up Jeb, it looks like you're deflecting from Hilary.

    When you talk about the CIA and smuggling weapons to Syria, it also looks like you're deflecting from Hilary. I just find it a little odd that this particular red herring also happens to be linked to Hilary and likely the missing emails as well.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    My point is the two incidents are inextricably related.

    When you bring up Jeb, it looks like you're deflecting from Hilary. When you talk about the CIA and smuggling weapons to Syria, it looks like you're deflecting from Hilary. I just find it a little odd that this particular red herring also happens to be linked to Hilary and likely the missing emails as well.
    No! You misunderstand. I realize you have to deal mostly with partisans, and that's how they operate. Of course these two incidents are related. Of course Hillary should be prosecuted if Gowdy can prove she failed and covered up, broke the law in any fashion. Do you realise the weapons smuggling the CIA was doing is the reason why the attack that claimed four American lives even happened?

    As to Bush, again, if what he did isn't illegal, it should be. I'm not suggesting he should be retro punished. But all government employees should be issued .gov addresses, required to use them for all official business and prosecuted when they don't. I don't care what party they are. That's unlike the 80% or more DP posters here that are died in the wool partisans that are forever covering for their own party and hypocritically pointing to the crimes of the opposition party. Such is the idiocy of our two parties.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    A Democrat gets caught red handed, and it's all "....but look at these REPUBLICANS!"

    I mean really...

    At this point...

    What does it even matter?
    I didn't know one of them was a republican.

    Jeb says he doesn't see what the problem with NSA spying is. If this guy gets elected it's time to start over.

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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No! You miss understand. I realize you have to deal mostly with partisans, and that's how they operate. Of course these two incidents are related. Of course Hillary should be prosecuted if Gowdy can prove she failed and covered up, broke the law in any fashion. Do you realise the weapons smuggling the CIA was doing is the reason why the attack that claimed four American lives even happened?

    As to Bush, again, if what he did isn't illegal, it should be. I'm not suggesting he should be retro punished. But all government employees should be issued .gov addresses, required to use them for all official business and prosecuted when they don't. I don't care what party they are. That's unlike the 80% or more DP posters here that are died in the wool partisans that are forever covering for their own party and hypocritically pointing to the crimes of the opposition party. Such is the idiocy of our two parties.
    I'm not a Republican by any means, but I feel like I am constantly defending Republicans from horrendous Democrat arguments. Generally speaking, the Republicans do a good enough job shooting themselves in the foot. But in this case, it would be awesome if the full force of the law came down on Hilary's head which would SET THE PRECEDENT and then people like Jeb can get thrown under the bus when it's their turn. And it's so clear to anyone paying attention that she's dirtier than a $2 hooker. If this is wrong, and illegal, this may be the time something finally gets done!

    It's just not Jeb's turn. Not yet. His day will come. The Clinton's, though, have been playing dirty politics for their entire lives and somehow dodging scandal after scandal after scandal. By all rights, Hilary should have been locked up in the 90's along with her husband. Lewinsky. Flowers. Starr. Perdue. Gracen. Jones. Campbell. Paul. Foster. Whitewater. China's contributions to the DNC. Waco. The list goes on, and on, and on...

    We're talking about Hilary right now. Forget Jeb. If this turns out to be something we can hold over our benevolent rulers' heads, rest assured everyone else is in line for the guillotine as well. Hilary first though.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    I'm not a Republican by any means, but I feel like I am constantly defending Republicans from horrendous Democrat arguments. Generally speaking, the Republicans do a good enough job shooting themselves in the foot. But in this case, it would be awesome if the full force of the law came down on Hilary's head which would SET THE PRECEDENT and then people like Jeb can get thrown under the bus when it's their turn. And it's so clear to anyone paying attention that she's dirtier than a $2 hooker. If this is wrong, and illegal, this may be the time something finally gets done!

    It's just not Jeb's turn. Not yet. His day will come. The Clinton's, though, have been playing dirty politics for their entire lives and somehow dodging scandal after scandal after scandal. By all rights, Hilary should have been locked up in the 90's along with her husband. Lewinsky. Flowers. Starr. Perdue. Gracen. Jones. Campbell. Paul. Foster. Whitewater. China's contributions to the DNC. Waco. The list goes on, and on, and on...

    We're talking about Hilary right now. Forget Jeb. If this turns out to be something we can hold over our benevolent rulers' heads, rest assured everyone else is in line for the guillotine as well. Hilary first though.
    Why do you want Jeb's day to come? Is the Republican Party so short on talent that they need to pull their presidents from one family now. And no, we're not just talking about Hillary, we're talking about government employees conducting official business on personal e-mail, which shouldn't be happening.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why do you want Jeb's day to come? Is the Republican Party so short on talent that they need to pull their presidents from one family now. And no, we're not just talking about Hillary, we're talking about government employees conducting official business on personal e-mail, which shouldn't be happening.
    I honestly don't give a rat's ass about Jeb right now, or later for that matter. But talking about what he might or might not have done just detracts from the issue at hand - a huge cover-up involving a Cabinet head, two months before a major election.

    It's kind of like how Snowden exposed tyrannical behavior that gets lost under the argument of his own wrongdoing.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    I honestly don't give a rat's ass about Jeb right now, or later for that matter. But talking about what he might or might not have done just detracts from the issue at hand - a huge cover-up involving a Cabinet head, two months before a major election.

    It's kind of like how Snowden exposed tyrannical behavior that gets lost under the argument of his own wrongdoing.
    Why are you opposed to exposing all wrong doing and remediation?
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why are you opposed to exposing all wrong doing and remediation?
    Because, if the three year old gets her hand caught in the cookie jar, I don't care about her four year old brother at the moment. He probably did it too. But the only reason why it's even a deal right now is because the three year old got caught red handed and she desperately wants to deflect blame. She is the only reason we are talking about the four year old at all.
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    Re: Did Jeb Bush Lie about turning over all of his work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records.
    The e-mails include two series of exchanges involving details of Florida National Guard troop deployments after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the review by The Washington Post found.
    Aides to Bush said Saturday that none of the e-mails contained sensitive or classified information, and that many of the events mentioned in them were documented in press accounts, either contemporaneously or later. But security experts say private e-mail systems such as the one used by Bush are more vulnerable to hackers, and that details such as troop movements could be exploited by enemies.
    As governor, Jeb Bush used e-mail to discuss security, troop deployments - The Washington Post

    Jeb Bush stated he turned over all his emails - AFTER he deleted those he didn't want anyone to see claiming they were personal and had nothing to do with government business - the same answer as Hillary Clinton.
    Until Jeb pays back the other 4 million (or whatever it was) he pushed off onto the American taxpayer he can burn in hell with Hillary...
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