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    Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Hillary Clinton claimed that she turned over all of her work-related emails to the State Department..... but refused to turn over (and seems to have destroyed) tens of thousands of emails during that time. Massive gaps exist in the records that she turned over - for example, when she flew to Libya and during the Benghazi attack.... we have weeks of gaps in which Clinton claims no work-related emails occurred.....

    Which leaves us with an interesting dilemma. Either this means that Clinton was completely off the job for critical weeks of American foreign policy..... or she's lying.


    So, which is it?

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    There is also the possibility (which I consider to be a probability) that the "missing" emails (those that did not make the transfer to the state department) would show communication between HRC and non-state department personnel about official matters of policy. It is not assured (much less likely) that HRC would consider those emails to be part of her official duties or that they should be included in the official record thereof.

    Naturally this could be done even if one had an official email address by simply using alternate methods to converse with the same parties. Perhaps the "convenience" was simply being able to take years to decide what the official record should include.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hillary Clinton claimed that she turned over all of her work-related emails to the State Department..... but refused to turn over (and seems to have destroyed) tens of thousands of emails during that time. Massive gaps exist in the records that she turned over - for example, when she flew to Libya and during the Benghazi attack.... we have weeks of gaps in which Clinton claims no work-related emails occurred.....

    Which leaves us with an interesting dilemma. Either this means that Clinton was completely off the job for critical weeks of American foreign policy..... or she's lying.


    So, which is it?
    Maybe she just called people on a secure satphone during that period. I don't buy her story generally, but I would not expect a SoS to be communicating but on secure channels while overseas on sensitive trips.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    In my opinion, you are working with a poor assumpton. That she cant do her work without email. In case you missed it they have developed this thing call a phone.


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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hillary Clinton claimed that she turned over all of her work-related emails to the State Department..... but refused to turn over (and seems to have destroyed) tens of thousands of emails during that time. Massive gaps exist in the records that she turned over - for example, when she flew to Libya and during the Benghazi attack.... we have weeks of gaps in which Clinton claims no work-related emails occurred.....

    Which leaves us with an interesting dilemma. Either this means that Clinton was completely off the job for critical weeks of American foreign policy..... or she's lying.


    So, which is it?
    Probably she's lying. I have no doubt the NSA can and may have recovered everything she ever sent regardless of where from. That said, why should we judge Clinton harshly over lying when all pols lie? As far as we can tell though, at least her lies didn't take us into decades long wars that were the catalyst to ISIS et al. Yes, iirc, she bought the lies of the previous administration, but she didn't create them as far as I'm aware.

    I think in the end whether she lied or not, it's the outcome of the misdeeds that were lied about that matter. That's perhaps why many aren't too worried about this.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    In my opinion, you are working with a poor assumpton. That she cant do her work without email. In case you missed it they have developed this thing call a phone.
    Yep, and sig-int folks in foreign lands never listen in on those things. It is more likely that HRC did use email but chose to not consider that to be official business.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Probably she's lying. I have no doubt the NSA can and may have recovered everything she ever sent regardless of where from. That said, why should we judge Clinton harshly over lying when all pols lie? As far as we can tell though, at least her lies didn't take us into decades long wars that were the catalyst to ISIS et al. Yes, iirc, she bought the lies of the previous administration, but she didn't create them as far as I'm aware.

    I think in the end whether she lied or not, it's the outcome of the misdeeds that were lied about that matter. That's perhaps why many aren't too worried about this.
    The bolded above is the crux of this entire issue.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The bolded above is the crux of this entire issue.
    How could a first time Senator, not of the same party as the Executive, have created the lies that were used to lie us into war with Iraq? Please explain how it would be possible.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, and sig-int folks in foreign lands never listen in on those things. It is more likely that HRC did use email but chose to not consider that to be official business.
    She could have done the same thing if she two email accounts.


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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    She could have done the same thing if she two email accounts.
    Yet it is more "convenient" to use one and decide later what subset should be made available to the public. It is harder to decide what might be a mistake to put on the record, at the time, than to have the advantage of making that decision years later.
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