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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I've asked this before and not received an answer from anyone so I'll ask it again and expand on it. If the US government, through the NSA and the courts, have determined that monitoring the communications of private citizens can be justified as in the national interests, why is it not possible/preferable that all government employees and agents, including politicians, routinely have their communications copied and stored for future reference
    They do. That's why they are required to use government email addresses and servers for business.

    If private citizens have no real expectation of privacy in this regard, why should those on the government payroll have any privacy rights?
    Private citizens do - their content requires warrants to get at.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They do. That's why they are required to use government email addresses and servers for business.



    Private citizens do - their content requires warrants to get at.
    My point, in this regard, is why didn't the NSA collect all of Clinton's emails from her private server since she chose to use it as the government substitute? Wouldn't that have been easier than going back now, hat in hand, asking her to provide access to the server?
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    My point, in this regard, is why didn't the NSA collect all of Clinton's emails from her private server since she chose to use it as the government substitute? Wouldn't that have been easier than going back now, hat in hand, asking her to provide access to the server?
    NSA collect on SecState? Um. No. That would require specific POTUS approval, specific Judicial approval, and would most likely go to the FBI.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Maybe she just called people on a secure satphone during that period. I don't buy her story generally, but I would not expect a SoS to be communicating but on secure channels while overseas on sensitive trips.
    And "maybe" she's lying her ass off to escape prison.

    Maybes are easy, explanations are what's needed. Maybe the dog ate the sever .,..who knows with a Clinton
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    All the email she sent to State landed in their servers, it wasn't archived immediately as she thought because that process wasn't working until recently, but eventually it will/was land there.
    OH?

    Has she said that?

    Has anyone but you?
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    NSA collect on SecState? Um. No.
    If the NSA can collect on the Chancellor of Germany, why not their own Secretary of State?
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And "maybe" she's lying her ass off to escape prison.
    She is lying because she knows she can. She is banking that liberals will feel that they have no choice but to protect her.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I've asked this before and not received an answer from anyone so I'll ask it again and expand on it. If the US government, through the NSA and the courts, have determined that monitoring the communications of private citizens can be justified as in the national interests, why is it not possible/preferable that all government employees and agents, including politicians, routinely have their communications copied and stored for future reference? Why leave it up to individual employees/politicians to adhere to the legislated mandates for retention and storage of communications data when the government has a multi $billion facility that can do it seamlessly and completely?

    If private citizens have no real expectation of privacy in this regard, why should those on the government payroll have any privacy rights?


    As is usual with one of your probing, thought out questions, I have absolutely no answer for that.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If the NSA can collect on the Chancellor of Germany, why not their own Secretary of State?
    Because A) one is not a US person and B) the other is Secretary of State, who outranks DoD.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton Lie about turning over all of her work-related emails?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    She is lying because she knows she can. She is banking that liberals will feel that they have no choice but to protect her.
    Why would anybody want to protect wrong doing. And particularly wrong doing that has a potential to compromise security. Is what's good for ones party more important than what's good for America?
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