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    Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    What do you think?

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    They could, they possibly do. They shouldn't.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Here's something of interest

    (Reuters) - The U.S. Department of Homeland Security's command center routinely monitors dozens of popular websites, including Facebook, Twitter, Hulu, WikiLeaks and news and gossip sites including the Huffington Post and Drudge Report, according to a government document.

    A "privacy compliance review" issued by DHS last November says that since at least June 2010, its national operations center has been operating a "Social Networking/Media Capability" which involves regular monitoring of "publicly available online forums, blogs, public websites and message boards."

    The purpose of the monitoring, says the government document, is to "collect information used in providing situational awareness and establishing a common operating picture."

    The document adds, using more plain language, that such monitoring is designed to help DHS and its numerous agencies, which include the U.S. Secret Service and Federal Emergency Management Agency, to manage government responses to such events as the 2010 earthquake and aftermath in Haiti and security and border control related to the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, British Columbia.

    A DHS official familiar with the monitoring program said that it was intended purely to enable command center officials to keep in touch with various Internet-era media so that they were aware of major, developing events to which the Department or its agencies might have to respond.

    The document outlining the monitoring program says that all the websites which the command center will be monitoring were "publicly available and... all use of data published via social media sites was solely to provide more accurate situational awareness, a more complete common operating pictures, and more timely information for decision makers..."

    The DHS official said that under the program's rules, the department would not keep permanent copies of the internet traffic it monitors. However, the document outlining the program does say that the operations center "will retain information for no more than five years."
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    Homeland Security watches Twitter, social media | Reuters

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    They could, they possibly do. They shouldn't.
    I agree. I think watching a relatively benign site like this is overkill and a waste of resources. Probably makes sense to monitor things like known jihadist websites tho.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    Obviously that's counter to liberty, NO.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Not without a warrant they shouldn't.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Here's something of interest

    Leaders of a congressional subcommittee are urging the Department of Homeland Security to extensively monitor social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to detect "current or emerging threats."

    The top Republican and Democrat on a House counter-terrorism subcommittee last month sent a letter to Homeland Security's intelligence chief encouraging department analysts to pore over huge streams of social media traffic.

    Representatives Patrick Meehan and Jackie Speier said in the letter to Caryn Wagner, undersecretary of homeland security for intelligence and analysis, that they "believe it would be advantageous for DHS and the broader Intelligence Community to carefully parse the massive streams of data from various social media outlets to identify current or emerging threats to our homeland security."

    Meehan, a Republican, is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee's counter-terrorism and intelligence subcommittee. Speier is the panel's ranking Democrat.

    The two lawmakers said such monitoring raises "privacy and civil liberties concerns" and suggested that the department issue guidelines which balance citizens' rights with the ability of analysts to identify threats.

    Earlier this week, Homeland Security's National Operations Center published a long list of websites which they monitor for "situational awareness."

    In an email to Reuters, Meehan said a hearing he had convened in December had "examined the evolving terrorist use of social media and effective intelligence and law enforcement responses."

    Meehan added: "If terrorists are operating in Pakistan or communicating through social media sites like Facebook, we need to remain vigilant. Yet there are important civil liberties questions involving U.S. government monitoring of social media and Americans' Internet traffic. We are seeking answers on the Department's guidelines and procedures to ensure Americans' civil liberties are safeguarded."
    Lawmakers press Homeland Security on Internet monitoring

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Not without a warrant they shouldn't.
    It's a website anyone can sign up for. Now to find out our personal contact info - that should take a warrant. Reading a public website? doubt it needs one.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    i wouldn't be surprised if they trolled all sorts of forums looking for wackos.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    It's a website anyone can sign up for. Now to find out our personal contact info - that should take a warrant. Reading a public website? doubt it needs one.
    Anyone can read it, no doubt about that. What would be the value in monitoring a site like this tho? I really don't think there is anything to be gained.

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