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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you think their hackers or any other government's hackers are good enough to hack this website or other forums ?
    I'm absolutely sure they can.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    I would suggest that they not only monitor, but have a coterie of agents who's job is to participate in the forums and project the "Perception Management" agendas of the gov't. NSA is in the crack of everyone's ass due to the Patriot Act and illegal surveillance and since Edward Snowden we know that to be true. Snowden reveals the criminality and he is pursued as the culprit. Same for Julian Assange. You, me, Grandma and the dog are the ones getting screwed, don't ya' know?

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    I blame TOT, who was the original one to threaten to contact the FBI about some of the 'terrorists' on here.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    The "point" as you put it is irrelevant to my comments. If all they do is gather the same information I can about posters and their posts, then I have no problem. If they can access what the owners and site operators can access without a warrant, that's would be my tipping point.
    Well I'm sorry your tipping point is so generous towards government profiling. You and I viewing a forum don't have the infrastructure nor all the other information on posters here that the government, with the help of google and the NSA do have to analyze and profile Americans with.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    They monitor thousands of forums in an effort to ferret out would be Islamist militants, fellow travelers, and the like. It's how those three men who were en route to Syria to join the Islamic State were captured. This is a forum viewable by anyone in the world with an uncensored internet connection and if someone in the FBI or wherever happens to find something actionable on here I don't really see the problem. The way I see it talking on a forum is essentially the same as talking 'in public' with the one caveat being we use usernames instead of our real names. Monitoring this public fora shouldn't be an excuse for violating or exposing privacy.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    They monitor thousands of forums in an effort to ferret out would be Islamist militants, fellow travelers, and the like. It's how those three men who were en route to Syria to join the Islamic State were captured. This is a forum viewable by anyone in the world with an uncensored internet connection and if someone in the FBI or wherever happens to find something actionable on here I don't really see the problem. The way I see it talking on a forum is essentially the same as talking 'in public' with the one caveat being we use usernames instead of our real names. Monitoring this public fora shouldn't be an excuse for violating or exposing privacy.
    I'd agree. This isn't a private communication between two people We post here knowing anyone can see it. It's like writing a letter to the editor.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well I'm sorry your tipping point is so generous towards government profiling. You and I viewing a forum don't have the infrastructure nor all the other information on posters here that the government, with the help of google and the NSA do have to analyze and profile Americans with.
    You seem to not comprehend my position, so I'll just leave it at that. I can't think of a more clear way of stating my position, but isn't what you're presenting it as in your rehash. So either you're intentionally misrepresenting or you're having comprehension issues.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Not without a warrant they shouldn't.
    if anyone on these boards has an expectation of privacy, you are nuts for thinking that

    and message boards, and socials networks have been watched for well over a decade now

    is most of it a waste a time? you bet

    is most just done with computers? you bet

    this is an OPEN forum.....dont expect what you type to be free from perusal
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Can someone explain to me why I have to expect privacy for the government not to spy on me? Exactly why do I need to be in lets say a damn changing room or something for the government not to have a monitoring system up my ass?

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    for that answer, please read George Orwell's book 1984

    big brother is here.....in more ways than people care to think about

    in some ways it is disconcerting.....

    in other ways, i understand why it is happening
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